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Actrium Adult Dog Chunks Brand Dog Food Quality?
This is the Walmart Brand. Made in Canada and exclusive to Walmarts in
definately reasonably priced. The ingredients; chicken,ground yellow corn,wheat flour,ground wheat,poultry by-product meal,corn gluten meal,tallow preserved with mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E),dried whey,dicalcium phosphate,salt,animal digest,potassium chloride, choline chloride, l-lysine monochloride,calcium carbonate, zinc sulfate,ferrous sulfate, vitamin supplements (E,A,B-12,D-3),riboflavin supplement,niacin,calcium pantothenate,manganese sulfate,biotin,thiamine mononitrate, folic acid, copper sulfate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, garlic oil, menadione sodium bisulfate complex (source of vitamin k activity), calcium lodate, sodium selenite. guaranteed analysis crude protein min...26.0% crute fat min.........16.0% crude fibre max.......3.0% moisture max.........12.0% linoleic acid min.......1.4% Can a nutritionist please chime in with comments on ingredients and quality? Who is the manufacturer of this product? We may be switching to this from Nutro for 2 Great Danes. 1 adult and one young male. Thanks in advance. |
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chicken,ground yellow corn,wheat flour,ground wheat,poultry by-product meal,corn gluten meal,tallow preserved with mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E),dried whey,dicalcium phosphate,salt,animal digest,potassium chloride, choline chloride, l-lysine monochloride,calcium carbonate, zinc sulfate,ferrous sulfate, vitamin supplements (E,A,B-12,D-3),riboflavin supplement,niacin,calcium pantothenate,manganese sulfate,biotin,thiamine mononitrate, folic acid, copper sulfate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, garlic oil, menadione sodium bisulfate complex (source of vitamin k activity), calcium lodate, sodium selenite.
I highlighted all the ingreadients that I know of that are bad. Someone else (Prin) may be able to shed some more light on the bad ingredients.
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Between a $60 food and a $75 food, you won't see much difference in your dog. But when you drop in quality as you would with this brand, you'll definitely see a difference. Vet bills will likely be high enough to cover any cost difference between that food and a great food. Nutro isn't the best either, but if cost is a definite concern for you, then go with Costco's Kirkland brand instead. It's cheaper and better than Nutro.
For this food, here's the break down: chicken-- as techno said, it's wet chicken, which means by the time it's cooked and loses 80% of its moisture, it drops far down the list, leaving ingredient #2 as the #1 ingredient. ground yellow corn and later, corn gluten meal -- both just make the stool bigger. They boost the numbers (protein, fiber mainly) and don't really benefit the dog. wheat flour, ground wheat -- a VERY common cause of allergies and just an unnecessary, low quality ingredient. poultry by-product meal -- you don't even want to know what's in there... Not just beaks and feet, but decayed and diseases animals. And not just chicken either. Crow, sea gull, you name it. If it has wings and it died a horrible miserable death, it's in there. tallow preserved with mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E) --- Whose tallow? Is it a cow's? If they don't say, it's because they don't know. It could be dogs and cats. Studies have found traces of the drug used to euthanize dogs and cats in cheap dog foods with mystery meat. salt -- why? Just to make it tasty and addictive animal digest --- more mystery animals. This one is far more likely to be cats and dogs than the tallow was, though. menadione sodium bisulfate complex (source of vitamin k activity) -- banned for human consumption, many dog food companies are removing it from their foods. Not this one! Menadione, or vitamin K3 causes free radicals in the body, which destroy DNA, which can lead to tumors and cancer. What you want, if anything, is vitamin K1 instead. K1 is the natural version of this vitamin. Hope that helps. Oh and when they split ingredients, like they do for the corn and the wheat, it's because there is more of it. It's likely that if you combined all the wheat into one ingredient and did the same for the corn, both would be ahead of the chicken on the label (even though the chicken is made heavy by the water content), and the food would look as bad as it is. |
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This website www.dogfoodproject.com has excellent information. Click on "Ingredients to Avoid" on the left-hand side of the page. Last edited by Ford; October 23rd, 2007 at 10:37 PM. |
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thank you everyone... this is the exact information i was looking for.
I will do my research on this Kirkland brand now. at the prices they charge for Nutro im suprised to hear negativity. It is bloody expensive and most of it ends up in the shovel anyway! |
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Nutro is not that bad , I used to feed my dogs the Lamb and Rice formula and they are now on the Kirkland Lamb and Rice, same ingredients as Nutro , less expensive, I do give them suplements too. I heard some dogs had problems on the chicken formula, so I would suggest the Lamb one.
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Not really, I checked out many many different food and even if other brands were about $30-$40 more than Nutro, it was the same amount of kibble per day.
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frenchy have you tried feeding your crew better foods for 6 months, and judged the results for yourself?... something like Evo or BATM. i think you would find they poop less and need less food to be at an ideal weight. although goldens do love to eat and get easily overweight... don't follow the instructions on the bag, portions are often exaggerated cuz the companies want to sell more food
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I think to see a difference in the feeding, you have to compare a crappy-crap food to a high quality food :
Ex : if I fed Buster Dog Chow, I would have to feed him 4 cups of food, whereas I'm feeding him 2 cups and 1/2 of Solid Gold BATM (barking at the moon)
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To learn how to read dog-food labels, here'S a site I found very helpfull : http://www.boxerworld.com/feeding/ a little excerp : Quote:
Don't be shy to come back with other food possibilities!
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Oh! and I almost forgot : WELCOME TO PETS.CA!!
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nutro is mostly rice with a little meat in it... not the best way to feed a carnivore... no wonder most of it comes out as big poop do try the kirkland if price is an issue for you. it's a little better than the nutro (but not much). good luck!
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I agree, that if you'Re strapped for $$, Kirkland has the same ingrediants as Nutro, but is less expensive...
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Meb i agree... a lot of akita breeders feed Nutro and love it. strange but true!
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I agree....if you're strapped for $$$ you may as well feed Kirkland L & R.
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Nutro sells a lot of food because they give the pet store owners huge incentives to promote and sell it.
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hehe, meb, you're totally a sucker. I can so picture that too. "Really? Nutro is better AND cheaper? WOW!"
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the worse part is I KNEW better....but the lady said that the troubles I was having with Buster was because I switched him to a too-high quality kibble too fast
So I bought, not a small bag of Nutro...but the BIGGEST freakin' bag they had
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Searching for options in value for money basically. Maybe i need another post or poll... what is the best value for the money? |
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Canidae is the best holistic food for the money, and Kirkland is the best not-so-holistic for the money.
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Have you ever looked into Timberwolf Organics? They've a great food without being too expensive : http://www.timberwolforganics.com/ It's not available everywhere though, so it depends where you live.
I agree that Canidae is another great hollistic food. EDIT : I THOUGHT TIMBERWOLF WAS THE SAME PRICE AS CANIDAE, but apparently it's not (I have a good excuse : it's not available here ) So yeah, Canidae's a good choice!
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So it's no wonder that a food with Corn as a first ingredient will be a third of the price than a food with a named meat-meal as a first ingredient. You get what you pay for. Just like fast-food is cheaper than sit-down restaurant food
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I agree with what both Prin and Meb said.
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ACTR1UM Holistic dog food
I"m not sure where you are getting that ingredients list or the
There is NO CORN...NO WHEAT..NO COLORS ... NO FILLERS OR ARTIFICAL PRESERVATIVES... 24% CRUDE Protein 14% Crude Fat 5 % Crude Fibre 10% Moisture Omega 6 and 3's Acidophilus The ingredient list I have in my lap right now on the bag which it is printed..Ingredient list on the bag in the order they appear: Chicken Meal, Brown ice, Oatmeal, Potatoes, Rye, Millet, Chicken Fat (also contained in Acana and Origin) Tomatoes, Salmon Meal, Salmon Oil, Whole Dried Egg, Flax Seed, Kelp, Lecithin, Sodium Chloride, Dhicory Root Extract Cranberries, Alfalfa, Spinich, Broccoli, Sweet Potatoes, Apples, Blueberries, Pears, Banannas, Vtimins and Minerals (Vitamin A, D3, E, Niacin, Vi C, Inostiol, D-Calcium, Thiamine , Riboflavin, Ferrous Suofate, Iron Proteinate, proteinate Manganous oxide Beta Carotene, Zinc Proteinate, Acidophilus, Schidigera Extract, rosemary, Cinnamon, Turmeric, Capsicum, Chamomile, Dndelion, Paprika, Garlic.. How can you argue with that ingredient list? My dog prefers this in taste against Acana, AND origin....eats a limitless supply (and does not exceed the recommended daily allowance) comes at a price 44% Lower than the leading brands (by reputation) My dog has finished grwoing up on this food (from 11 months to 2 years old) is very happy, very healthy taste test ACTR1UM wins over any other brand I"ve done the blind taste test....time, and time, and time again....without fail... NO GAS, FIRM STOOLS, GOOD TEMPERMENT, COAT LIKE SILK, next to no shedding, breath like a freshly caught fresh water fish! For the last week, he has had one plate of each, ACTRIUM and another lamb preparation of good repute 45% highter in price...and he eates the ACTR1UM plate 1st...EVERY TIME...I'm returning the other brand to the pet store... THESE ARE THE FACTS ABOUT ACTR1UM Quote:
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jkor, you're responding to a post from 4 yrs ago. Most food companies have changed/improved their ingredients due to consumers being much more educated when it comes to the nutrition of their furry family members
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dog food
My husband and I got our large dog from the spca. We fostered him first and he was eating 5 cups of food and he was lean, not skinny, but lean. He went to the bathroom 4 to 5 times a day. Too much mess.
Once he was ours we switched him to a good quality food and to this day he eats 2 cups of food a day and goes to the bathroom once or sometimes twice. Much better. The cheaper foods have way too much filler. He is still lean and energetic. I've worked in 2 different pet stores for a total of 4 1/2 years and I learned a lot, did a ton of research, read books and tested different foods (only the better ones) on my own dogs. We are using Orijen and are very pleased with the results. In the past I lived near a dog food plant and you won't believe what the cheaper foods have in them. If you'd like to read a book that explains it all, look up Ann Martin's book.......I believe it's called What's really in your Dog Food, or just type it in your search engine. There is a good site online called Dog Food Analysis. It breaks down all the different foods and explains why the ingredients are good or bad. There is so much to learn and I'm still researching. Also we use a canned food called Tripett. It's made from the animals stomach and has all the gastric juices in it that help break down your dogs food and also I have found that it helps to keep the tarter off their teeth. They only get a good tablespoon a meal and a little extra once a week. I've been feeding it for about 5 years now and I wouldn't want to be without it. I'm always interested in learning about ways to improve my animals health. So I continue to read and research. |
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