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Great job, growler,
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Sorry I don't come come to this thread often , I just don't have any advice , but you don't seem to need any as I can see , are pretty well inform !
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Thanks everyone
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![]() ![]() Duffy actually has a little of the opposite problem - she's a little chubby ![]() I started the tooth brushing tonight, after her dinner, but before the Zoom Groom Massage so ![]() ![]() ![]() The whole atmosphere of the clinic is very comfortable, not sterile clinic, soft comfy lighting, a couch, laminate wood floors (warm sense feeling) art on the wall, alot of natural wood decor. Duffy is way more comfortable there than @ the reg vets office. She even wanders around exploring the room a little, interested in what's here & there, not just running for the crate or door wanting out.
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Growler,sounds like a wonderful place
![]() My old vet,used to descale my then cats by hand,she did not even need a towel,they just froze in place. I wish Rocky had a chubby problem:sad:
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So far so good, Duffy feels great, she's eating great loves her raw & she seems to be peeing a little less than before
![]() Since I've mentioned them in other threads these are the supplements she's on PB8 capsules (open & mix into food) it's yogurt ![]() She was also prescribed Standard Process Feline Renal Support and Standard Process Feline Whole Body Support these are all natural supplements that include bovine colustrum an ingredient in mother's milk which is what most of the body's natural immunity comes from. They provide nutritional support to the organs & kidneys especially. These again she gets 1 each with breakfast & 1 each with dinner. Duffy is also becoming much better with the pilling....not too much pill spitting anymore but she needs to stop trying to bite my finger while I shove the pill down her throat ![]() I've added Lamb to her Chicken & Beef menu, can try her on a fourth meat this week - variety is the spice of life or so they say ![]() I can't wait to see the test results in early march & see what the blood & urine work reveals ![]()
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Growler,it all sounds very complicated to me,but I am really happy Duffy is doing better,how could she not be,with all your knowledge,love and care?
Here's hoping for good test-results ![]()
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Haven't updated in awhile, Duffy's doing great with the exception of a bit if dry stool I'm thinking she maybe getting a little too much bone in the meals, so I'll get some meat only & mix that in. Plus she was eating Duck today & this has psyillum husk in it so that most likely contributed to tonights scare.
Tonight she was constipated :sad: very scary ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() A half hour or so later Duffy pooped again a proper though abit dry poop this time. No attempting since so I'm sure she's cleaned out. Definately going to get some boneless meat tomorrow to mix into the bone-in. With any animal getting the right combination of meat, bone & organ is key, all animals are different & you must adjust based on their individual systems. Other than that she's great........blood & urine retests are going to be done in early March & I am just dying to know how her results stack up against the last ones.
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A tense night!
![]() ![]() You're doing a marvelous job with her, though, growler. ![]()
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Yes a very tense night. Duffy is sure lucky to have you as a mom, you are doing a great job.
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Great job growler!! You've got a good eye on her and you've become a kind of CRF genius since this all began!
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Poor you
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I'm glad Duffy is feeling better! Oh and those baby Duffy pics in the Feb thread are so adorable!!!
![]() Is this raw you're feeding like a mix you buy frozen or something? The raw I've tried so far my guys hate (the girls I can't even tempt with canned). They even tried to bury it like it was poop. ![]()
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Thanks everyone for the support
![]() Krdahmer I pm'd you the info ![]() So I'm pretty sure it was a combination of the CRF (the CRF cats' body tries to conserve as much water as possible & does pull moisture out of the stool & back into the body) and the perhaps tiny bit too high bone content in the chicken & esp the pysillium husk & bone in the duck she had yesterday. The other meat varieties she eats don't have bone content, so I have picked up some chicken & organ no bone to mix in with the bone-in chicken, thereby lowering the bone content of her meals. I think we'll be skipping duck for a while until she is properly regulated. The other thing the owner of In The Raw (my raw food store) suggested was to add some water to her raw meals to make them a stew-ish (not soupy) consistancy. She has been drinking after eating which is great but this will add a little extra water to her food. Plus add in approx 1/4 tsp of pureed Butternut Squash from either Heinz Organics babyfood or Earth Organics babyfood. Butternut squash works just as well as sweet potato & pumpkin but apparently tastes better ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() We'll see how her litterbox deposits are over the next few days ![]()
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Growler,do you think baby-food Butternut Squash would help Rockys runny poop??
I am waiting to next week to see what the new vet says,Rocky has had loose poop,pretty well since last October,probably a side-effect of the Tapazole and nothing seems to help:sad:
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Chico - yes it most likely
![]() ![]() Pick up the small jar of either Earth Organics or Heinz Organics, use about 1/4 tsp per meal, since the food will go bad in the fridge before you use it all up scoop it into ice cube trays & freeze it. I found in my tray there was more babyfood than tray to do it per 1/4 tsp so I ended up with a teaspoon in most of them & 3/4 of a tsp in 2 spaces - it's easy to section cut the babyfood while frozen, then dump it in a plastic bag. Add to the meal & place the dish in a sink of hot water to warm the food up abit (most cats love warm food) this will melt the frozen cube & then you can mix in with the rest of the food ![]()
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Thank's Growler,I'll get some,hopefully Rocky will like it
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Early Stage Kidney Failure
Our mixed breed dog was diagnosed with very low kidney function at the age of about 13. We were told by the vet to put him on a low protien diet, so we purchased low protien dog food from the vet. We still fed him some meats occasionally as we didn't want to take too much away from him.
He lived to the age of 18 and we finally had to make the decision to put him down because he had difficulty getting up and even moving. His kidneys, though, were not an issue and we attribute much of this to the low protien diet. Your case may be different, but maybe a change of diet will add some years to your kitty's life. |
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You might want to read the entire thread. Low protein diets for cats are inappropriate.
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Help
All I want to do is ask 1 question. Can cats or dogs eat raw or cooked potatoes? I was told once it can cause kidney failure? Is that true?? Thank You:sad:
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You can use the potassium level in your cat or dogs' blood test to determine if potatoes should be avoided or fed less frequently. In dogs with kidney failure some have high levels of potassium in their blood & should limit foods such as potatoes, banana, pumpkin. However some dogs will have low blood potassium & will need either a supplement or slighly higher levels of potassium rich foods. Grapes & raisins fed in large quantities have been linked to kidney damage in dogs
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Duffy had blood & urine work done yesterday, just waiting for the results - should be in tomorrow. I can't wait
![]() We also have a recheck scheduled with the homeopath vet for next wednesday to see how she's doing, go over the test results & decide what to do with the 1 bad tooth (kidney values must be stabilized before any anaethesia). Unfortunately I work until 7pm tomorrow get home around 8 so I have to wait extra long to see the results. I told the girl @ the reg vet (where the blood was taken) that the vet didn't need to call unless she saw something alarming in the results as I've become fairly good @ reading results & we have an appt w/homeopath next week anyways. If it's good results I think the reg vet doesn't need to take time away from other patients when I'm seeing another vet next week. I had the girl weigh Duffy as well & she's dropped 0.16kg since Oct ![]() I'm thinking I will do a full switch to the homeopath (who is also trained in conventional vet med) & not go to the reg vet anymore. The philosophy of homeopathy speaks to me & I "get" the whole package idea (energy(aura)/stress/food/chemicals/trauma/death etc all playing a role in the overall health of the pet). Not sure I could go conventional again. ![]() Finally, finally!!! got compensation coming from Royal Canin for the kidney issues - they are mailing out a cheque (takes 6 weeks?!?! from Ont ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Will update after I get the results from the testing ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Growler
![]() ![]() I'd totally forgotten that Duffy got sick in the contamination-scandal,she's very lucky to be alive and have a mom like you. It's a good thing you at least got some compensation for all you and Duffy have been through.
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![]() ![]() ![]() And I'm so glad you're getting some compensation for all the testing you've had done! ![]() ![]()
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L4H, Chico & Hazel Thanks for the good wishes, vibes & prayers
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![]() So her results came in not too far off what I was hoping & better than expecting - you know the saying "expect the worse & you'll be pleasantly surprised" though I think it's actually "you'll never be disapointed" or something like that ![]() ![]() The 5 main values to keep a close eye on are Blood Urea Nitrogen (BUN), Creatinine, Calcium, Phosphate & Urine Specific Gravity there are others in combination with these which can indicate a worsening state but these are the "most important" in dealing with kidney failure. Test in Sept 07 Blood Urea Nitrogen 14.3 mmol/L..HIGH (ref range 5.0-12.5) Creatinine 211.8 umol/L..............HIGH (ref range 83-181) Calcium 2.45 mmol/L...............normal (ref range 2.26-2.74) Phosphorus 1.23 mmol/L..........normal (ref range 1.07-1.98) SG 1.038.......normal (ref range 1.008 - 1.060 normal is 1.030-1.040) lower the sg the more dilute sg of water is 1 this is bad in relation to cats' urine it's supposed to be concentrated Test in Mar 08 Blood Urea Nitrogen 17.4 mmol/L.HIGH increase of 3.1 mmol/L Creatinine 223.2 umol/L.............HIGH increase of 11.4 umol/L Calcium 2.64 mmol/L...........normal but increase of 0.19 mmol/L Phosphorus 1.63 mmol/L......normal but increase of 0.04 mmol/L SG 1.031....................barely normal but a decrease of 0.007 Overall not too bad, the Lab Dr's notes indication the slight presence of blood in the urine they have indicated UTI though there is also the possiblity of hypertension resulting in blood in the urine. She also had the same value of blood in urine listed last time but it wasn't commented on then - this all depends on the Dr doing the testing it's their findings. Duffy is definately feeling better, more alert & active, got some of her Tortitude back ![]() ![]() ![]() Homeopath recheck next week I'll have to remember this time to ask for a blood pressure reading, was going to last visit but forgot ![]()
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Good for Duffy for getting her tortitude back in action!
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I'm confused
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The BUN & Creatinine are too high out of the normal range but have risen slower than the comparison between tests in apr and sept The Calcium & phosphate are still in normal range but have gone up slightly, I need to make sure these don't go out of the normal range. I would have preferred all the values to have dropped or stayed the same with the exception of the Urine Specific Gravity that one is bad when lower. I was hoping the USG would have gone up a bit meaning more concentrated, especially since she is not peeing as often as before which you would think that would show more concentration. She was peeing small amounts several times a day & now she is going slightly more volume wise but only twice a day. Cat's bodies are designed to conserve water which is why they have a low thirst drive. Their kidneys will actually concentrate their urine in order to remove some of the water to use elsewhere in the body. Higher Urine Specific Gravity is better meaning more concentrated - kidneys are functioning normally, the lower the SG the more dilute the urine, the cat drinks more & pees more in order to flush the toxins from the body, this puts more stress on the kidneys.
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Thanks for the explanation
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I have read that too but haven't yet been able to find what the ref ranges would be
![]() ![]() LP, Hazel & TeriM Thank You too for the good wishes ![]()
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