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Jen, is it possible the site is down? I can't get it...
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Jen can't get your site
as above, can't get your site either.
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oh i got it now!! and i see vegas and uncle monty! they are very proud to support lily :love:
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looks good. Bump bump
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How do you get on the friends of Lily page?? Buster wants to show his support...
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Real Kitchener-Waterloo Statistics
If you would like your puppy pal picture put on the site please send it to sandra@savinglily.com. Please tell her your baby's name
![]() For the KW stats... Here's what we know and what we have proof of right now... First, every time a dog bites, attacks, licks an open wound, or scratches a person it has to be reported to our local Public Health so they can quarantine the dog for 10 days to check for signs of rabies. We did our homework thoroughly observing our right to Public Information and there is no record whatsoever by any Health organization, local, provincial or federal for 16 or 18 or whatever they want to claim as the number of attacks in Kitchener. Based on this made up number however, they had told people we had an epidemic. Last year, 2004, accurate records stated that German Sheppard/ Sheppard Cross had 84 attacks/bites or concern for quarantine in our area (triple from 2003) and they're not calling that an epidemic??? If their made up 18 or 16 was an epidemic how come they're not doing anything about 84 by German Sheppards????? What are the worst offenders in our area so far for 2005 in order: German Sheppard, ****zu, Husky/Husky Cross, and Jack Russell covering 120 investigations. Smells real bad doesn't it? Jack Russells had 20 incidents last year alone... where's our Jack Russell Epidemic??? Now you know there won't be any more epidemic scares because that's not going to fly a second time around and there's no way the Police would support the banning of German Sheppards or that anyone would believe a Jack Russell is now the dog of the day for vicious behaviour. It really makes you think doesn't it about why they earmarked Pit Bulls... do you smell big money payoffs? I do ... ![]()
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Jen, I have been your story following with great interest, and just wanted to again commend you for your outstanding perserverance in this endeavour.
Your committment is inspiring. ![]() The website is fantastic and so comprehensive. This must have been a great deal of work, but a wonderfully educational result you have achieved Along with everyone here, I wish you and Lilly all the best in your fight against this travesty!
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Thank-you so much for that and we appreciate any input anyone has about what we seem to be lacking on the site that anyone thinks we need to post.
I can't say we were alone in our information gathering. Many old friends, new friends in here, DVMs, Phds, neighbours, anti-BSL organizations, kennel clubs, breeders and officials (to be named at a later date), have been instrumental in getting the facts to us, helping us verify our information and ensuring what we're telling people is accurate. Our lawyers have made sure we're not tripping over our own feet, and media that are being stopped somehow from telling our story have been feeding us information as well. Basically we all feel that we just picked up the ball from Dr. Gary Goeree when he needed a time out from the fight he had been doing pretty much solo for 8 years here. And in a lot of ways a lot of us feel we are paying our dues for being so passive for so many years not turning the one voice into the voice of many. BTW, pup pals aren't limited to just dogs ![]() ![]() : Jen
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Hi Jen, it was nice to see Sandra at the rally on Sunday and catch up with whats going on in person. Rockys pic will be there as soon as i can get someone to help me do it LOL. My daugher is mad at me and wont help me do any computer stuff right now. Something about me being to Cyberly dependant ! I think its a really sweet idea though! Good luck with everything on Monday We will all be sending you our most positive thoughts thats for sure!!
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Bump bump. I think it is important to keep this thread in the forefront as so many of us will be affected by the issue at hand.
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Yep I agree... The more people who see the thread the more people who will get educated. So far we've only found one other owner who went through this ordeal in Kitchener already with exactly the same circumstances. We trying to find more. I'm hoping if we can keep this thread current more Kitchener people will wander in....
We're both nervous about Monday... who wouldn't be? but we're very positive. We have a meeting with the Lawyers for a few hours on Sunday to make sure everything is in order.. It still feels very surreal. Lily is bouncy happy silly kissy and all that stuff that puppies do... She spent last night watching me build a new gate for the back yard. Since betty by-law just let herself in our back gate to start this thing, we've now built a new one that people can't just open and walk through. We've also begun trust training with Lily and warned our neighbours not to hand treats over the fence to her anymore. Basically she's being trained not to accept food from anyone but us and not to eat anything she finds on the ground. You never know with our site being out there and all that, and after the Cambridge HS getting a death threat what loony is going to lean over one of the fences and try to hand Lily something nasty. That happened to a friend of mine in Colorado when somebody decided they didn't like his purebred Sheppards, both dogs were killed with tainted meat that was dropped over the fence. Rediculous what we feel we have to do now to protect our girl. Jen ![]()
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Jen,we'll keep our fingers and paws crossed for Lily and your family on Monday..it's a sad,sad state of affairs when you have to fight for the life of your dog,just unbelievable and draconian...
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Thanks so much !! All the good positive vibes the better
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Update
Well tomorrow is Lily's first big day in court as it were.
We're spending the rest of today doing stuff to be prepared. We have a dinner meeting with the lawyers tonight. I'm in a second-guessing state of mind today wondering if there's anything we forgot and all that stuff. You start to think about all the extra stuff you may be forgetting to include and of course the worry is still there of things going poorly. Sandra and I can't thank all of you enough for being there every day, holding our hands and Lily's paw through this. We really wouldn't have the courage to fight even further beyond this if we didn't know all of you are there sending us the good vibes. We'll win this and get BSL kicked out of Kitchener and then we'll get it out of Ontario. As soon as we get back tomorrow I'll post everything in here. Thanks again everyone.. for everything! Jen
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Hi! *HUGS* Good luck!
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Best of luck, and don't worry about forgetting anything. That's what the lawyers are there for. We'll be thinking of you and waiting anxiously!
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Aww Jen,we will certainly be thinking of you,Sandra and Lily...it's strange,it's almost like you live in another country,it's hard to believe any city could have such terrible laws as in K-W.
Good Luck! and keep up the good fight!!
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Wow, its just about here, you couldn't possibley have forgotten anything Jen, Ive never seen anyone put together anything so comprehensive in my life! Certainly not any of the governments involved! You guys have done an amazing job for Lily, you have been and will continue to be im sure, an inspiration to all of us, but especially for those of us who will be so vulnerable come the 29th of August. Im glad that you feel like we have helped you, but I truly believe that we all feel its the other way around! sending you, good vibes, prayers, hopes and wishes for tomorrow
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Good luck tomorrow, I am sure everything will go perfectly as you have been doing such an unbelievable job! This is such an admirable thing you are doing and you are setting the tone for the banning of BSL completely!
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Best of luck, tommorrow.
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Thanks so much everyone!!
Now is the time to start writing Michael Bryant again. Word on the street is that they're thinking of adding the general term LAB MIX to the list of banned breeds for Ontario. That would pretty much ban every mutt out there... Get your angry on! I'll post again after we come back from court... Bless all of you so much! Jen
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I am actually a bit nervous,afraid that Jens and everyone elses fight for their dogs is like hitting a brickwall,but then again even brickwalls crumble...
All we can do is hope for the best and that K-W and all of Ontario, will show some humanity and mercy,not only for Lily but all persecuted dogs!
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Just catching up from the weekend........................................... ..
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Jenn and Lily
Sorry to send in my best wishes and thoughts so late, but just able to access a computer....Best of luck to all concerned today...we are on pins and needles here hoping with all of our hearts that things turn out positively. You go girl!!
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Yes, best wishes to you all with your very first day in court!
We'll be anxiously awaiting your update.
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Jen hon, I have knots in my belly for ya'll! To think that I am sitting here at my comfy pc, and you are fighting in court just does not feel right!! TONS OF LOVE to all of your family... I will be back on here all day waiting with baited breath to see what happened today. I sure wish that I didn't live 10 hours away, or I'd be supporting you in person today at the court house!
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