Coyote and TAS

[NoahGrey]

I am surprised that this topic has not been brought up. I am sure everyone has heard of the coyote jumped a fence, attacked and carried off someone's dog.

Toronto Animal Services wants to hire someone to go, hunt it down and shoot it.

There is debate going on whether to humanely trap it and relocating it vs shooting it.

From what I have heard and read, most of the public are favoring towards humanly trapping it and having it relocated, rather then shooting it. And personally I feel that it should not be killed either.

And I just have to throw this out there. I can't believe that an animal welfare organization has this way of thinking. I could go on, but won't.

ACO22

[Chris21711]

Originally Posted by ACO22

I am surprised that this topic has not been brought up. I am sure everyone has heard of the coyote jumped a fence, attacked and carried off someone's dog.

Most people in the Toronto area, a lot of people on the board are from other areas.

Toronto Animal Services wants to hire someone to go, hunt it down and shoot it.

They didn't actually say that from what I have read, but as you said below "there is a debate on".

There is debate going on whether to humanely trap it and relocating it vs shooting it.

From what I have heard and read, most of the public are favoring towards humanly trapping it and having it relocated, rather then shooting it. And personally I feel that it should not be killed either.

ACO22

The one downside to trapping and relocation, the majority of the times the animal will flounder. Coyotes in particular are very territorial and don't like interlopers.

[NoahGrey]

Originally Posted by Chris21711

The one downside to trapping and relocation, the majority of the times the animal will flounder. Coyotes in particular are very territorial and don't like interlopers.

I believe in this case, wildlife experts would be involved in the relocating. It would be relocated to a area where it would thrive.

I do agree with you that most animals die when relocated, but in these cases you have to look at the situation, knowledge of area, population, etc. There are alot of success stories of animals that have been relocated. I mean, being relocated at least it has a %50 chance of survivual..rather then just shoot him, whereas it gets no chance at all. All because it was doing what it is suppose too do.

Most animals are territorial and no matter where they are will encounter territorial issues. It is their way of life.

My issue is that this is a wild animal. This is not some dog that all of a sudden is agrressive and attacking other animals. This animal is doing what it is suppose to do...which is hunt. And because it unfortuanly attacked someones dog, people want it dead.

My heart goes out to the family, but I hope that this coyote is not shot.

ACO22

[Chris21711]

Originally Posted by ACO22

I believe in this case, wildlife experts would be involved in the relocating. It would be relocated to a area where it would thrive.

There is no such place that exists ACO22. Wildlife just doesn't work like that unfortunately :sad:

ACO22

Were they able to trap the coyote, which is no easy task, other coyotes would move into the area and you would have the same situation all over again. There was a statement from one of the wildlife companies, a highly respected one and he said the exact same thing.

[BenMax]

Originally Posted by Chris21711

Were they able to trap the coyote, which is no easy task, other coyotes would move into the area and you would have the same situation all over again. There was a statement from one of the wildlife companies, a highly respected one and he said the exact same thing.

Very true. They say that when an animal is removed, dies or is relocated, others will battle to acquire the 'new' territory. It can be a vicious circle either way.

I truly believe however that this animal must be removed as he/she is aware that there are 'easy' meals. I am concerned about the cat colonies which will also suffer such fates.

[Chris21711]

Originally Posted by BenMax

Interesting topic ACO22.

Personally I would not like to see the coyote shot however I also look at the other side of the coin.

If a dog got out and killed another - would this dog be considered for re-location? I guess the arguement could be that the coyote killed out of survival. I am really not sure how I feel about it.

Unfortunately there is no easy answer. Shooting the animal - I say no. Humanly trapping and euthanizing humanely - I think so.

If they are intent on ridding the area of this particlar coyote, that would be the only humane option BenMax.

[BenMax]

Is there a wildlife animal sanctuary somewhere in Ontario? This could be an excellent option and solution.

[Chris21711]

Originally Posted by BenMax

Very true. They say that when an animal is removed, dies or is relocated, others will battle to acquire the 'new' territory.

That is absolutely true

I truly believe however that this animal must be removed as he/she is aware that there are 'easy' meals. I am concerned about the cat colonies which will also suffer such fates.

If they dither long enough in coming to a decision, then Spring will have Sprung and all little critters will be out of hibernation.

[BenMax]

Interesting topic ACO22.

Personally I would not like to see the coyote shot however I also look at the other side of the coin.

If a dog got out and killed another - would this dog be considered for re-location? I guess the arguement could be that the coyote killed out of survival. I am really not sure how I feel about it.

Unfortunately there is no easy answer. Shooting the animal - I say no. Humanly trapping and euthanizing humanely - I think so.

[NoahGrey]

Originally Posted by BenMax

Personally I would not like to see the coyote shot however I also look at the other side of the coin.

If a dog got out and killed another - would this dog be considered for re-location? I guess the arguement could be that the coyote killed out of survival. I am really not sure how I feel about it.

Unfortunately there is no easy answer. Shooting the animal - I say no. Humanly trapping and euthanizing humanely - I think so.

Can I ask why you think it deserves to be shot?

No, a coyote dog are two different animals. Yes, they share alot of physical traits/intelligance...one is wild, while the other is domestic.

ACO22

[BenMax]

Originally Posted by ACO22

Can I ask why you think it deserves to be shot?

No, a coyote dog are two different animals. Yes, they share alot of physical traits/intelligance...one is wild, while the other is domestic.

ACO22

Not shot ACO22. I don't think this at all. Euthanized humanly I am tettering on. I have to tell you I really am not easy with answering this with certainty. It is a tough question.

[Love4himies]

I don't think BenMax said shot, but to be humanely trapped and euthanised.

I am of the opinion that when you live where wildlife is, then you adjust your ways. That includes insuring your pets are safe. I have moved from the city to the country and have shifted my cat's freedom outside to address such incidents.

I think the coyote should live.

[BenMax]

Originally Posted by Love4himies

I don't think BenMax said shot, but to be humanely trapped and euthanised.

I am of the opinion that when you live where wildlife is, then you adjust your ways. That includes insuring your pets are safe. I have moved from the city to the country and have shifted my cat's freedom outside to address such incidents.

I think the coyote should live.

Good point L4H. See - I am totally wishy washy on this one. You got me ACO22 - this is one subject that I really don't know where I stand.

[NoahGrey]

Sorry BenMax at first I thought you meant shooting it. I now know you don't want that. I agree. And if it came down to shooting it or humanely PTS. I vote Humanely PTS.

ACO22

[NoahGrey]

Originally Posted by Love4himies

I am of the opinion that when you live where wildlife is, then you adjust your ways. That includes insuring your pets are safe. I think the coyote should live.

Thank you and I agree. I am soo tired of hearing people bitch and moan about the wildlife in their area/backyards.

Expecially when they back onto a forest or a ravine. It's like you choose to make your home there. Yeah, your little house...just took aches of forest and ravine away from the wildlife, now having to sturggle finding shelter, food,etc. just annoys me.

ACO22