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Old January 13th, 2006, 06:00 PM
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Grapes for dogs - Answered by Dr. Guindon

last night a grape fell on the floor and dakota got it. she played with it for a while and then ate it. i thought she wouldnt like it but surprisingly she wanted more. my boyfriend gave her more we dont let her have people food at all....but she seems to really like grapes. is that ok?
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Old January 13th, 2006, 06:41 PM
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heather331, grapes are known to lead to acute renal failure in dogs. How many grapes did you feed her ?

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Old January 13th, 2006, 07:07 PM
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please stay away from grapes!!!!!! not good for doggies.
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Old January 13th, 2006, 10:06 PM
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wow! i'm glad i asked then. i thought that grapes were mostly water and that it would be fine. thanks for the information! no more grapes for her! sorry dakota
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Old January 14th, 2006, 10:23 PM
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The only part of the grape that is toxic is the "seed".

All my dogs have gotten grapes(seedless)as treats.I'm not talking every day and a whole bunch.And I make sure they are washed first.

My first GSD lived to be 13.With absalutely no health issues leading to the grapes.And he started getting them as treats when he was 3 months old.My current GSD is almost 10.He too has been getting them since he was 3 months old.He is in great health except for a bit of arthritis.

Also,I really don't think my breeder/vet. would have given me the ok for them if she/he knew it would cause major health issues.
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Old January 14th, 2006, 10:30 PM
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Grapes are one of the foods that do hold a larger concentration of pesticide, as compared to other fruit. I try to buy organic grapes when possible. Still better for you than processed foods.

And I know this is rather unrelated as I'm talking about people rather than pets but I thought I'd throw it out there in case there was anyone else like me, for whom pesticides are a consideration. (I have cancer in my medical history so I exercise a little extra caution in things like this.)
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Old January 15th, 2006, 01:27 AM
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Is that what the white film is on the skin? Pesticides? I always wondered what it was...
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Old January 15th, 2006, 01:44 AM
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From everything I have read, there are no studies that have yet established why some dogs would react to grapes while others don't. No study either has identified which part of the grapes (or which chemical on the grapes) would lead to renal failure. Some dogs have eaten grapes in small amounts as treats their whole lives without any problem while others went into kidney failure hours after ingesting a large amount of them for the first time. I guess the safest thing is either not to feed grapes to your dog at all or else give them as an occasional treat and in small quantities.
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Old January 15th, 2006, 09:14 AM
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Jesse stole some banana the other day. First she played with it, then she kissed it, then she mushed it around in her mouth, and eventually ate it. She loved it. She also loves apples, but hates the skins. And don't forget about the pickle pictures I posted a couple of months ago. That's her favorite treat!! We haven't had grapes fall on the floor for her to steal yet.
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Old January 15th, 2006, 09:22 AM
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As far as I know they don't yet know how many grapes have to be injested before it causes kidney failure, sorry but I wouldn't take the chance. Would you openly give chocolate knowing what can happen.
It is apple seeds that are not to be eaten and bananas are fine.
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Old January 15th, 2006, 11:50 AM
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I am pretty familiar with the no-no foods - particularly seeds. But lately it seems that many of the seedless fruit I have purchased is just brimming with seeds. So suggest you take a bite first! Besides more fun that way, dog is sharing your food with you.
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Old January 15th, 2006, 04:42 PM
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the white film on fruits and veggies isn't pesticides. It's yeast. It's a natural film of yeasts and spores from the air. I'm sure there are pesticides in the mix, but even non-pesticide fruits/veggies have it.

Cabbage was actually what was used to make bread befoer yeast became something you could buy. If you soak cabbage in water, and use the water to make a bread dough (add flour and wait until it bubbles - takes a few days).
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Old January 15th, 2006, 04:51 PM
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Raingirl, you are a plethera of useless knowledge. I thought I knew a lot, but you are a goddess!! :queen: Oh teach me wise one, teach me...
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hahaha...thanks jesse's mommy.

It's almost like a curse sometimes though. From the time I was a child I always got teased about it. Sometimes I still do. Great for playing trivia though! I just like to memorize stuff and learn new things. If I don't know something, I go and learn it. I have definately been labeled a geek or nerd most of my life. Sucks though, as I wish I knew more people like me. I don't have any "girl geek" friends, only guys...and you can't talk about everything with guys...
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Old January 25th, 2006, 06:17 PM
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article about pet treats, includes grapes

I thought I had heard grapes were bad also, so I quit giving any to my dogs.

Today, the article on the opening page of this site,
"Dog and cat articles - on Pets.ca

TREATS FOR DOGS -

says grapes are good....??

Quote: "Sweet raw baby carrots, raw broccoli, raw sweet red peppers, grapes, pieces of banana, pineapple, pieces of apple or pears, you can experiment and see what you dog likes. They have taste preferences too!"

***POST EDITED - The article in question has been edited*****

any other thoughts??

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Old January 25th, 2006, 07:35 PM
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I have seen avacado in some vegetarian dog foods which is funny because I also read it is toxic. I think some food restrictions need to be taken with a grain of salt.
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Old January 25th, 2006, 11:46 PM
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We seriously have to find out somehow if it's the seeds. I know with avocados it's the pits that are toxic.... Mixed info everywhere!
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Old January 26th, 2006, 08:47 AM
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We seriously have to find out somehow if it's the seeds. I know with avocados it's the pits that are toxic.... Mixed info everywhere!
It was my Vets who were the ones who told me it was the seeds that were toxic in the grapes...As I stated before.All of my dogs where/have been given the seedless grapes(treats) and I have had no health issues in regards to this.My breeder was even giving her dogs seedless grapes.This is why raisens are very dangerous for dogs.The raisens are just the dried grapes,which DO contain the seeds. ..Tron is going on 10,and his kidneys are just fine...

And as for the avocados,as Prin said,it's the pit that is toxic.
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Old January 26th, 2006, 09:05 AM
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It was my Vets who were the ones who told me it was the seeds that were toxic in the grapes...As I stated before.All of my dogs where/have been given the seedless grapes(treats) and I have had no health issues in regards to this.My breeder was even giving her dogs seedless grapes.This is why raisens are very dangerous for dogs.The raisens are just the dried grapes,which DO contain the seeds. ..Tron is going on 10,and his kidneys are just fine...

And as for the avocados,as Prin said,it's the pit that is toxic.
Hmmm, tell me, do you often eat the avocado pit (unless you're a dog, of course !) ?...
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Old January 26th, 2006, 06:30 PM
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Most spray programs(pesticides) for grapes are usually done well before the grapes are harvested and would not be cause for concern. Most sprays which go on grapes are very low to no toxicity. This is the case for most atlantic canada wine grapes anyways and not too sure about imported table grapes.
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Old January 27th, 2006, 02:30 AM
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What about mango pits? I know peach pits and cherry pits are bad, but are mangos in the same category? Boo ate an entire mango a couple of years ago and didn't die, but I wonder if it was a fluke. Mango pits are tastier than other fruit pits so doggies are less likely to leave them behind...
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Old September 14th, 2006, 06:49 AM
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Even though I have never see a case of intoxication, I would suggest avoiding grapes for dogs.

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I know this is an older thread, but if I just came across it then there are probably many more that google and come across it as well. A few years back I had 2 dogs poisoned by someone, one of the first questions the SPCA asked me was if my dogs had been given, or had access to, grapes. This was before the toxicology report was done on them, where we later found out they were given a large dose of Lorazepam. Anyway, it was the first time that I had been informed that grapes and raisins (which contain the seeds), or rather, the grape seeds were poisonous to dogs. As another note..it's not just the avocado seed that is poisonous to a dog, the avocado including any part of the plant can be poisonous. It contains Persin and is in the leaves, seed, and bark, as well as in the fruit.
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Old July 6th, 2012, 11:16 PM
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Re: avocado, in addition to the plant, I was under the impression that it was the dark fleshy part between what we usually eat and the skin. Avoderm puts avocado in their food, so I would love to hear their response to this.

As for the grapes an raisins, just say no and don't risk, since it seems to be random. I've seen really sick dogs on the forums from this.
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In regards to grapes & raisins - they are toxic to the kidneys of dogs. Even if a dog doesn't get sick right away from eating them, like a classic case of poisoning, the damage will show down the road in the impairment of kidney function in later years.
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