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Old September 15th, 2006, 05:45 PM
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thedogfoodproject.com lists the new ingredients for SG foods, now, so I guess it's happened already.
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Old September 15th, 2006, 05:48 PM
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Well, the bag I got yesterday still has the old ingredients, or at least the bag says it does... But no stomach upset in Boo leads me to believe I got an old bag.
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Old September 15th, 2006, 05:48 PM
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btw SuperWanda thank you for posting this. Without you, I might not have notice to find a new food for Boo.
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Old September 15th, 2006, 06:02 PM
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Prin,

I'm afraid it is legit - it is the actually solid gold catalog - sent by SG themselves.

You don't need to thank me - I should be thanking you and the others here for helping me decipher these food labels. That's why I noticed because I was looking so closely at this new catalog!
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Old September 15th, 2006, 07:30 PM
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I also purchased an old bag today.. and the ingredients on the SG site haven't changed for WK yet so I think there's still a window of time.. between them makign said 'new' food, and it making it to the stores.
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Old September 16th, 2006, 12:42 AM
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fyi Technodoll: The grrrls tried two buckets of the dehydrated raw but never again ~ I've never seen so much poop in all my life.

I think I've posted this elsewhere but I guess it bears repeating. Global - Beaches emailed me advising that they expect to have TO on the shelves by the end of September.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 09:00 AM
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just spoke a friend who feeds NRG. She loves it. Has three pups and switched from raw to the NRG. I think its like any food, some dogs will like it, others wont.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 09:12 AM
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What is NRG?
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Old September 17th, 2006, 09:33 AM
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Are they changing the Just a Weebit too? - I dont have a pamphlet so I would actually need to bring the bag to the computer to compare - I didnt see any tomato pomace in the Just a Wee Bit - when I checked online.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 09:50 AM
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Yes - Just a Wee Bit has also changed - same as the WolfKing but the Wee Bits has more protein and fat still:

Bison, Salmon Meal, Brown Rice, Millet, Cracked Pearled Barley, Rice Bran, Canola Oil, Tomato Pomace, Flaxseed, Natural Flavor, Salmon Oil, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Dried Chicory Root, Parsley Flakes, Pumpkin Meal, Almond Oil, Sesame Oil, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Thyme, Blueberries, Cranberries, Carrots, Broccoli, Vitamins and Minerals.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 10:42 AM
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What is NRG?

http://www.nrgpetproducts.com/
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Old September 17th, 2006, 11:18 AM
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I didn't even realize that they made dehydrated foods for dogs!!!!

Must be hard to find - or maybe I haven't opened my eyes to it.

Must be expensive - I would imagine feeding raw is cheaper but dehydrated gives you the convenience.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 06:48 PM
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I am not impressed by the change in ingredients. I drive out of way every couple of months so that I can get this food for my dogs. I recommend it to everyone and now they change it and not for the better. I will also send them an e-mail and a copy of this thread.
DVP is easier for me to buy so I just may have to go with a food switch.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 07:15 PM
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thedogfoodproject.com lists the new ingredients for SG foods, now, so I guess it's happened already.
Is anyone else having trouble accessing mordanna's site?

www.dogfoodproject.com
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Old September 17th, 2006, 07:56 PM
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yeah, the site is hanging up on me, too. it happens sometimes
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Old September 17th, 2006, 09:41 PM
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Old September 17th, 2006, 09:55 PM
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Hmm... they don't have any ingredient lists on there... They've got a beef one and a buffalo one though....
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Old September 17th, 2006, 10:45 PM
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it's there, just have to dig for it (bad design IMO!) http://www.nrgpetproducts.com/pg3ingredients.html

but here is better: http://www.olee.com/nrg.htm just click on a formula and you will see the ingredients. however not updated with the new Bison recipe. OMG i would have to feed dakotah 6 cups of this stuff per day (plus add water so it plumps up, you get what, 10 cups of food?) he would NEVER eat this much, LOL! and imagine the poops! scary.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 10:49 PM
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Yeah, I saw that, but that's not a real ingredient list. It doesn't tell you the exact order. The other one doesn't either... They pretend they do, but they don't.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 10:52 PM
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how's this? http://dogs.about.com/od/dietandnutr...f/NRG_beef.htm i would assume the ingredients are in order, by pre-processed weight?
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Old September 17th, 2006, 10:54 PM
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It's got turkey liver (bad for Boo) and wheat germ (bad for Jemma). Oats are also #1 on the list.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 11:03 PM
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no no, i didn't mean how's this as in "would you feed it", LOL! i meant "how's this for list of ingredients cuz we're all curious". heck i saw a price of USD $50 for less than 13 lbs of the stuff, are they nuts? you have to feed tons for big dogs, it wouldn't last very long and you'd need a bulldozer to clean out the back yard after a week
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Old September 17th, 2006, 11:06 PM
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Yeah, it's ok for the ingredients- told me all I needed to know.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 11:12 PM
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yep. your yard is too small for a bulldozer too.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 11:14 PM
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Yeah, I don't shop enough to use a bag for each individual load.
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Old September 18th, 2006, 08:55 AM
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The lady I know who uses it says it costs her $90 taxes in for a 16lb box. That box feeds 3 dogs (all around the 50-60lb range) for a month. the feeding guidelines are very high she claims. The site says a 5lb bag has 26 cups in it. So you cant really go by the dry weight for feeding.
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Old September 18th, 2006, 09:14 AM
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Why would SG do that? I don't feed SG but I had a chat with the owner of the pet food store in my town. He's been informed of the change but says the price will stay the same. Seems the company is charging him the same amount of money for a lesser quality food. He wasn't too impressed and may stop carrying it altogether. Apparently he has a lot of trouble getting it in the first place, says SG often takes several weeks to ship him his orders.

For anyone who's interested, I feed Holistic Blend (not to be confused with Holistique Blendz by SG). My Benny is extremely sensitive to food in general, and to anything with chicken in particular. He does really well on the Holistic Blend Lamb and Rice formula, here are the ingredients:

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Lamb, whole ground millet, ground brown rice, whole ground barley, salmon, nutritional yeast, amaranth, flax seed, canola oil, alfalfa, calcium carbonate, potassium chloride, choline chloride, L-lysine, cranberries, yucca schidigera extracts, garlic powder, cinnamon powder, rosemary extracts, ferrous sulphate, zinc oxide, vitamin E supplement, vitamin B12 supplement, manganous oxide, zinc proteinate, niacin, vitamin A acetate, calcium pantothenate, sodium selenite, manganese proteinate, thiamin mononitrate, colbalt sulphate, biotin, riboflavin, calcium iodate, vitamin D3 supplement, copper proteinates, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin K1 supplement, folic acid.
It's made with free-range lamb meat. A little grainy, but Benny does so well on it I don't mind so much about the grain. His teeth and breath are much better since I've put him on it, and his coat is nice and shiny. Poops are good too. He's 64 pounds and I give him 2 1/2 cups a day to maintain his weight. Costs me $54.99 for a 35 lb bag which is pretty good IMO.
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Old September 18th, 2006, 10:01 AM
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Still no reply from SG.
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Old September 18th, 2006, 11:47 AM
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thedogfoodproject.com lists the new ingredients for SG foods, now, so I guess it's happened already.
Where? When I look, they're still the old ones...
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Old September 18th, 2006, 11:59 AM
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Ok, so after talking to my dog food store and them not being aware at all, I decided to call SG directly. What a scam!

This is how my conversation went:

"Are you changing the just a wee bit and WK formulas?"
"Umm... No. I mean, we're adding salmon, but that's about it."
"Really?"
"Well, it's not really salmon, I guess, it's salmon oil. But that's it."
"Oh, so you're not adding tomato pomace?"
"Oh.. Well... yes, it's an added fiber source. But we removed some grains, like amarath."
"Umm.. But didn't oats move up on the list?"
"Well.. yeah, I guess so. Some ingredients have been moved around and other ingredients have been added to make it better, like we removed the garlic and we're finally taking it off the bag, but it's not enough to call it a "complete formula change."


So that's that for me.
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