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I received Ava's test results Thursday evening, everything falls perfectly within the normal range. She's doing well at the center (the place is absolutely beautiful with acres of walking trails among a Pine forest ). The trainer who takes her for her walks and plays with her says she's a gentle love bug, pays no mind to the other dogs, and never barks . We'll be going to spend the afternoon with her on Tuesday.
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Penny's now separated from Nukka and Lucky with only a few minutes of contact at a time with Lucky in the yard. She's still very stressed and reactive at this point. Her test results should be in by Tuesday/Wednesday. we'll know more then. Thank you once again for the support and good wishes everyone .
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I feel so for you LP. You must be missing Ava like crazy. At least you can still go visit. You have done and continue to do so much for dogs. Please don't let this one make you doubt yourself and your abilities. You have more in your little finger than most do in their whole body.
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Thanks for the update LP! Please give Ava another smooch and hug for me when you see her on Tuesday!
I hope Penny continues to improve and build back up her confidence. It must be hard for you to keep her away from her Lucky Boy! So do you suspect an illness with Penny or something off? that perhaps would have had something to do with the disagreement? Interesting how animals can sense so much more than we ever could? the perfect home will come along MF! I am positive.. Cindy
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LP, I'm so very sorry to hear what you've had to go through with Ava & Penny. I know it would be driving me crazy to know WHY this happened the way it did. Just wondering if you have considered consulting an animal psychic or communicator? There are some gifted people who are able to tune in to an animal's thoughts. I took a recent animal communication course, and if you're interested I could send you a PM of the instructor of the course who lives in ON but can "read" an animal from photos, or she may be able to recommend someone in QC.
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LP,I too am very sorry,I am sure letting go of Ava was not an easy decision,but I am glad she has no healthproblems.
As for Penny,do you suspect something is not right?? If so I hope sweet Penny will be ok and reunited with Lucky I am sure you will love seeing Ava again,but you will probably be leaving in tears,as she will more than likely want to go home with you I know you know dogs and have helped several towards a good life and I don't doubt that you are doing the right thing
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LP this must be so hard and can only give you my 110% support and best wishes for all.
Be strong and keep a positive frame of mind. All will work out in the end.
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We went to see Ava this afternoon. We were so happy to see each other . She was quite pleased to give us an extensive tour of the walking trails.
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lp, the walking trails are beautiful!
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Passing along for Penny's results and happy to hear your visit with Ava included happy trails.
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How is Penny doing these last couple of days?
Sounds like Ava is enjoying her time at the centre w/lots of long walks for good results or at least workable definitive answers in Pennys' tests
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This all sounds so much like my two cattle dogs, Susie and Cuddles. Susie would bully Cuddles when they were young, Cuddles is the biggest wimp or softie you'd ever meet but unfortunately also a very good fighter, and one day the worm turned. Same thing LP, for the rest of their time together they looked to continue the fight and it's just so stressful to live with, having to keep them apart. The other bad aggression I have seen here is from a thyroid deficient sheltie. Boy, was he hard to stop if another dog got in his face. He is fine now he's on med's though. Good luck in sorting your problem out.
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I am so glad Ava is in such a gorgeous place! It must do a lot for your peace of mind LP.
for good test results for Penny. I hope they are both healing well.
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That's a nice trail LP
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LP, I just read through this. What a nightmare for you all. I'm glad to see Ava is in such a wonderful place.
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Such a beautiful, serene place. I know it has to hurt you not to have her at your side. You, Ava and Penny have been and will be in my thoughts. Thank you for the update and photos.
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glad things are working out a bit for you lp. i think of you even though i haven't been around to keep up. just want to send and to you and hope penny gets better soon and can join her friends again.
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LP, it must have been such a thrill for both of you to see each other. Ava certainly looks happy enough though. Hoping the test results you are waiting for tell you what you want to know and that you are able to work with it. Glad to hear Penny is recovering well enough.
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Penny's test results came back today. All falls within the normal range. As crazy as this may sound, we were almost hoping for something, anything, to show up . It may have offered us some easier answers, some simple solutions.
We had to make the most difficult decisions...we are now actively looking for new homes for Ava and Nukka. And back a million steps with Penny . Thank you to every one who have offered so much support.
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OH LP this is just so heartbreaking I can't even imagine your anguish right now. has there been an incident with Nukka as well or is this simply precautionary? Poor Penny and poor you...
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Precautionary. Penny is extremely reactive, is too quickly aroused, and we're not going to take any chances. We've tried the crate and rotate for the past week and a half and it's too stressful on us all and in no terms a fair life for Nukka.
There is not one dog to blame in all of this. Lucky was also involved in the fight but I was able to call him off. Perhaps he and Ava were protecting the pack from a perceived threat? We'll never know. We are certain though that the issues lie with Penny. We just didn't realize how serious they are, and how they were escalating until everything fell apart.
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I'm so sorry LP
I can't remember if you've used Rescue Remedy with Penny before or not, perhaps that might be an option?
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Lp, I'm so very sorry you have to rehome Nukka too.
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This just breaks my heart, LP . I just can't imagine the pain you and your family must be feeling right now.
It looks like Ava has a wonderful place to stay for the moment . I wish you luck in finding very special homes for your two babies.
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Thank you TQ & L4H, my heart does hurt...I keep thinking of ways to bring Ava back home but I know that would never work .
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You know LP the more I think about things I am starting to wonder if Penny is experiencing some vaccinosis? The symptoms you are describing are quite common of a reaction to a rabies vaccine. There are some homeopathic treatments that could help her a lot and would definately not harm her so perhaps worth looking at? When was she last vaccinated?
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Thank you for all that information Teri. Although I knew there could be reactions from vaccines, I didn't know how many serious ones there could be. Penny hasn't been vaccinated against rabies, nor DHPPV, in over three years though, and almost two years for Lepto. I know it's likely going to take some time to get over this for her. But even the behaviorist thought that Penny's behavior was a bit extreme, even now three weeks after the incident. I'll be calling her tomorrow to discuss Penny sleeping/hiding downstairs and her hyperactivity when she finally does come up and/or outside.
Some positive news though...usually when there's something beyond the fence in the woods, both she and Lucky race towards the same spot. Last week, Penny went after/redirected to Lucky and another fight nearly broke out. Thankfully dh was there and able to hold on to her while I called Lucky to me. Tonight though, Lucky ran to the fence barking and Penny ran right to the same area with her hackles raised sounding off like Kujo. I calmly said (I have no idea how I was able to remain so calm ), "Lucky, Penny, come" and they both flipped around and came charging across the yard and up the stairs on to the deck where I was. That sort of positive reaction from the both of them at the same time hasn't happened in a long time. Normally I can get Lucky to respond immediately but I have to go back for Penny, once Lucky is inside, to get her attention. So tonight's experience gives me something positive to hang on to for a little while .
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I'm so sorry you're having such a hard time LP. I think it's awesome youve gone to visit Ava and I bet she is beyond thrilled to see you. I hope you'll be able to find a home where you can still visit - you clearly care for her a lot. Best of luck with Penny
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