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Old February 10th, 2010, 08:07 AM
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ok, this is a mini rant, what is it with people that have dogs and DO NOT WALK them???? we have a few neighbours that you never ever see with their dog on a leash.....
"oh we have a back yard" yeah....and???? whats that got to do with anything? do they not realize dogs NEED their walk? not only to relieve boredom, but to socialize, see and smell different things, enjoy time away from the other dogs, when I had Whisper/skylar , she came on the 3 walks a day with Brina and I, when I have friends over I ask if they'd like to join us on our 3 mile walk.

another excuse I love "I work and don't have time" then why do you have a dog??? its not the length of the walk, its the quality....I'm sure everyone has at least 15 minutes in their busy day to take a 15 minute break for their "loved pet(s)". you'll see me out at 5:30 am walking brina (just a mile walk in the morning) my daycare starts at 6 am so I can't be long, during the kids nap time I run her out back and put her through her commands, after supper she gets her other 2 miles...I finish daycare at 5:30, once it gets lighter out at night then her walks will be increased.

or the famous one "she/he/they don't walk well on a leash" duh...I wonder why???? *LOL*

NOTE: this posting is not directly about anyone in this forum unless you are my two neighbours in the trailercourt and if you do live there, can I walk your dogs for you?

ok, I think my rant is over ............thanks for listening...oh and yes, I have offered to take their dog(s) on walks with me but because of theirs never being out they are no longer dog friendly........

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Old February 10th, 2010, 08:20 AM
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The title of this thread hits the nail on the head for the way many of us fee. I don't think anyone should have pets unless they are prepared to give them care and attention. Heck, if I had a dog, that would be a great incentive to actually get my butt off the couch and walk.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 08:23 AM
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*L* need to lose weight? look at your dog, if he/she is overweight then you usually do too! when I noticed brina getting heavier I realized I was too, so we increased our walks this past year. when I was first married I had a chi, a cat and a rabbit (full size) I'd walk the chi and cat around the trailer court, yes I lived in a trailer court *L* and the rabbit rode in an old army pouch on my hip and we'd stop in the field and I'd let the rabbit run around. *LOL* I was laughed at (kindly) by the neighbours
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Old February 10th, 2010, 08:36 AM
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Marko's newest pod cast speaks about this and it's considered neglect. IMO if you don't have the time to walk your dogs you should not have any.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 08:43 AM
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really??? *gone to listen*
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Old February 10th, 2010, 10:24 AM
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Our dogs have almost an acre fenced and we go out together for playing and running. No formal leash-walks, though. When the winter weather allows on the weekends, they get short runs in the woods outside the fence, and they get short rides, one-on-one, with hubby or me when we go out for errands.

In summer there are no walks in the woods, though. Too many ticks out here, along with skunks and porcupines, all of which can be health hazards Although summers are probably more boring for them that way, they have more toys to play with in summer, and we step up the training sessions, which keeps them focussed and moving.

None of our dogs are overweight although by-and-large, they are 'self-exercising'.

I don't think they're being neglected, despite the lack of leash walks. They seem happy enough. And lord knows they enjoy their play sessions. Couldn't open the pod-cast, though, so I don't know what criteria for neglect are being used.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 10:56 AM
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Guess I better turn my 13 year old lab and 16 year old toy poodle in for neglect then. If I tried taking Keesha for a walk she would look at me like I was crazy. She always preferred to be carried rather than getting her tender tootsies dirty. Sammy has 19 acres she can wander. She also gets lots of exercise when we go out to feed the kitties. She runs around the perimeter of the fence a few times (when she has the energy) and usually goes for a run down the open field for about half an acre or so.
Yes, I totally agree when they are in an area where they can't go for a run or are restricted by a smaller yard walks are terrific. Chico loves to take Bailey for walks regularily. In her situation I would too. I have tons of space where Sammy can run and I can still watch her. I don't think that makes me a horrible doggy mom.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 11:04 AM
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Hazel, 14+, you guys said it though, you have lots of land. If I had a yard, I'd still take a dog for a walk, because yards aren't that big, unless you have some major land. I find it different in that situation. When dog gets really going and running, I can't imagine running around in a yard is fun, as opposed to either going for a walk, or being allowed to run in a field or something.
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In the last few years, Buddy doesn't get his walk in the winter months because his mom (me) finds it too cold. We go for car rides, play/run in the house, have playdates indoors with his doggy friend Monty, and go to Pet Smart for fun. I feel guilty, but I can't tolerate the cold.

When the weather warms up, however, we walk everyday.

I find that walking your dog is so much fun for the dog and a bonding experience for both of you.

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I feel so sorry for those dogs, melinda . To me it is part of the overall health of a dog to be stimulated and exercised. I only wish I had a dog that I could walk and/or run with. It would make them perfect.

I also feel this way about cats too. I do feel strongly that cats should be taken outside, either fenced in or harness (definitely supervised) so they too can enjoy the outside.
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Sigh............I tried, but I am just a mere mortal

I neglect my dogs

I abuse them

I am an ignoramus

Tomorrow I shall take the 3 of them to the OSPCA and hope they find a more caring family, not today though.....I'm too lazy.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 12:57 PM
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I have a huge yard with an open field beside me, but she so enjoys her walks, I'm lucky where as I have a bike path across the road from me where we can literally go for miles and meet all kinds of dogs and other animals (last year it was a bear, and at times we have a wolf that shadows us), it leads to all different parks and beaches(actually we could almost go the distance to brockville on it) one of which allows dogs,so in the summer if I feel really energetic we go the 6 miles to the beach, let her swim and then rest and hike back. In the winter the ski doo's flatten the snow so there is always a hard trail for me to walk on. *L* I'm laughed at because you'd never know I was female in my skidoo suit and huge boots, face wrapped in a scarf, even the coyotes, wolves and bears are too scared to approach us!!
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Hazel, 14+, you guys said it though, you have lots of land. If I had a yard, I'd still take a dog for a walk, because yards aren't that big, unless you have some major land. I find it different in that situation. When dog gets really going and running, I can't imagine running around in a yard is fun, as opposed to either going for a walk, or being allowed to run in a field or something.
Regardless. There are so many different reasons why some people don't take dogs for a walk. Blanket statements being made about people being ignoramus' are very hurtful to a lot of people. What about the elderly who love their dogs to death but aren't able to go on long walks? Are they to turn their dogs into the already burdgeoning shelter system or rescue system? What about working dogs? Not all of them get out every day for a walk. If their owner is in a wheelchair how are they to do that? And please don't suggest they can hire someone to do it. A lot of these people are on very fixed incomes. But they love their dogs to death.
In my eyes there are a lot of horrendous things happening to a ton of dogs that are way more important than whether or not the dog gets out for a long tiring walk every day. Puppy mills, bybs, over breeding, abuse, being tied up 24/7 to a dog house, beastiality........ Those are the issues we should be concentrating on.
I admire the people who do take their dogs for long walks every day come hell or high water. Good on them. Just don't expect me to be able to join. I have some medical issues that will not allow it.

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Sigh............I tried, but I am just a mere mortal

I neglect my dogs

I abuse them

I am an ignoramus

Tomorrow I shall take the 3 of them to the OSPCA and hope they find a more caring family, not today though.....I'm too lazy.

Aww hon, what time are you going to be there? I'll join you with my two.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 12:59 PM
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I feel so sorry for those dogs, melinda . To me it is part of the overall health of a dog to be stimulated and exercised. I only wish I had a dog that I could walk and/or run with. It would make them perfect.

I also feel this way about cats too. I do feel strongly that cats should be taken outside, either fenced in or harness (definitely supervised) so they too can enjoy the outside.
you're welcome to come to Cornwall and take Brina walking any time you feel like it!!! *L* this past fall I had Kandy from Wyomming and GG from Que. take her walking while I got the bbq ready *L* a change for Brina from the family taking her
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Old February 10th, 2010, 01:03 PM
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this post wasn't made to make people fight....it was a little rant of mine, my neighbours whom I talked about are elderly, one goes walking daily (never with her dog because it doesn't like other dogs) and the other just doesn't like walking, so his dog just stays in the yard all day and goes in at night...always alone.
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Aww hon, what time are you going to be there? I'll join you with my two.
When I've finished watching the Soaps on TV
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Ok, I will be home from work and should have the kitties fed by then. I should just about have enough time to get them there and get back in time to start dinner for the family and do my housework.
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Ok, I will be home from work and should have the kitties fed by then. I should just about have enough time to get them there and get back in time to start dinner for the family and do my housework.
Jeez you're fast
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why the rude sarcasim??? I mean if you don't agree with this thread, why not just say your piece and leave it like that? I'm afraid I don't understand what you're trying to do??
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this post wasn't made to make people fight...

I'm not fighting Melinda

it was a little rant of mine

I took it as an opinion rather than a rant

my neighbours whom I talked about are elderly, one goes walking daily (never with her dog because it doesn't like other dogs) and the other just doesn't like walking, so his dog just stays in the yard all day and goes in at night...always alone.
As 14k said you made a BLANKET statement...thereby including ME...That I choose not to take the dogs for a walk on the end of a leash is my prerogative. Personally I think, if they were given the choice they much prefer that I open the back gate and use the 200 acres available with me in tow
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No rude sarcasm Melinda, 14k and I just joking that's all. We both know where/how each of us live.....BUT, to be called an abuser, neglectful and an ignoramus because I don't walk the dogs on a leash, is a tad harsh in my opinion.
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No rude sarcasm Melinda, 14k and I just joking that's all. We both know where/how each of us live.....BUT, to be called an abuser, neglectful and an ignoramus because I don't walk the dogs on a leash, is a tad harsh in my opinion.
Thanks Chris. My thoughts as well. I have to go. Brownie needs to go back to the vet again.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 01:28 PM
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No rude sarcasm Melinda, 14k and I just joking that's all. We both know where/how each of us live.....BUT, to be called an abuser, neglectful and an ignoramus because I don't walk the dogs on a leash, is a tad harsh in my opinion.
where did I say it was abuse?? That was on Marko's pod cast, so shouldn't that be where you and 14k be funny?? I understand joking between friends, I do it myself, but I honestly felt that was directed to me, if not then I apologize and I'll blame it on my hot flashes and mood swings
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Melinda, I never said that YOU said this, that or the other. Throughout this thread these words have come up by all who have participated thus far.....In the same way that everybody put in their two cents, I did the same, nothing more.

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Marko's newest pod cast speaks about this and it's considered neglect. IMO if you don't have the time to walk your dogs you should not have any.
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Good rant, I'll join in.

You're right, it is animal abuse and those ignoramus should not have the privilege of being dog owners.
Not directed at anyone in particular but the words were used in this thread. If the words are used then I guess we, the unwalkers, are the ones who are feeling like it is directed at us. Just proof - words hurt. Now I am done.
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words not used by me is what I'm trying to say....and you know what, it might have started out being my rant/thread, but I'm also done. period, but thanks for all the input, lesson learned. point taken.
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Hey gang, I may have used the wrong words in expressing my frustration with my neighbours.

I did not by any means wanted to convey that if you don't walk your dogs you abuse them. Anybody who is as active and knowledgeable like the gang on this board is definitely not what I consider abuser of animals. Many of you have been such a trememdous support and help when I reached out to you when my little guy was diagnosed with diabetes.

I truly apologize if I have offended anyone and I am so sorry.

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For what it's worth my reply in THIS thread was toward Melinda's neighbour's whom I've had the displeasure of meeting. To some all dogs need is crappy food and a little corner to go and die so NO they shouldn't have any dogs.

For the ones who haven't been able to hear the pod cast - it was said that we may unintentionally be neglecting our pets needs. Walking for one provides not only exercise but stimulation, socialization as well as an emotional need; interacting with other people old young black white, other dogs, cats, horses birds - there's a whole world out there they should be seeing. People get dogs and what their forced to live within their owners 4 walls yay!?!

IMO it's a very powerful podcast - harsh to hear for sure but dogs are NOT fish and apparently people need to be reminded of that - a perfect example is the ones' Melinda was talking about.

Sorry Shelley it was I who began the threadjack by mentioning Marko's podcast.
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Come on folks we can do better than this

Melinda, it's a GOOD rant. Haven't listened to the podcast. I don't need to. I KNOW these people, heck we all have neighbours like this.

The point is not whether you walk on lead or indulge in off-lead play, carry your kermutskie (that made me laugh : a friend has a Lab A LAB for dawg's sake, who won't go outside if it's raining...) or let the boogerheads run themselves silly ~ the point is all of ...and here is the magic word... interact with our animals. And I can say without hesitation that not one of you takes your dog to the yard, chains it for the day and leaves it, then puts it in the basement at night ~ and I'll bet THAT's the kind of neglect and yes, abuse referred to in this rant and on the podcast.

I think we are all singing from the same hymnbook. All animals need love and attention. We each have different ways of getting it to them is all. Let's not get our collective knickers in a knot over language.
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