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evil smoked knucklebones!
i feel bad for the dogs when it rains because they don't get alot of fun outside playtimes, so on Monday I bought them each a huge smoked knucklebone... figured they would enjoy chewing on those and it would keep them busy... even through the plastic they were incredibly greasy, and smelled a bit "chemical".
my boy left his on the floor after 2 minutes, and never touched it again. my girl enjoyed hers for a while and then i took it away. my iron-stomached girl then had diarrhea Tuesday morning, which we attributed to the weekend of lake swimming, etc, figured she must have eaten some dead bird or something... she ate a big breakfast and last night her poop was perfect. she had a normal dinner and then chewed on the knuckebone again before bed. no poop at the dog park this morning (which isn't unusual) but then my dog sitter calls and says she had diarrhea in her crate, and while we were talking she pooped on his floor My poor little girl, who has a stomach of steel and is never sick... the ONLY thing different in her diet was the stinky knuclebone my boy is the one with the sensitive tummy and he is fine, and they both ate the same thing for dinner last night, but he didn't touch the bone. hah. needless to say, i am returning them to the petstore for my money back!
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Didn't you search here for smoked bones before you tried them?! I don't know any dog that can handle them. Boo and Jemma got the super pukes after them.
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no, i didn't.... it was a spur-of-the-moment purchase, i was buying them one of those devil-balls and the bones were there, i was tired after a long day's work and plodding home in the sticky rain and not thinking straight, LOL! i'll do a search on them now, you've piqued my curiosity
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Ugh! My guys had similiar problems with the smoked bones. I thought I was doing a good thing. Nope. Bronny threw up and they both had diarrhea. Now they get heavy marrow filled soup bones that I find frozen at the grocery store. They love them and no one gets sick. (But I still worry about their teeth. And I take them away if the dogs start to get chips off of the bone.)
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well now i'm alot wiser... never again!
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lol now that you're addicted to pets.ca, you should know that before you try anything new, you have to search or ask first.
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I've never had a smoked bone problem. But I haven't bought one in a while. I discovered the joy of fresh marrow bones from the butcher this week though.
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I got 3 packs of fresh marrow bones last week. They were a huge hit and super cheap. I'm going back for more tomorrow. |
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Tucker can't handle the smoked ones either...he gets the super-pukes too. I made the mistake once... never again!
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I give Tucker the fresh raw ones too and never had a problem. My last dog got the runs from either of them, sensitive tummy always.
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i can't give my boy any "wreck" bones (aka big, raw weight-bearing bones), his teeth chip way too easily and his gums get lacerated. he will eat a couple raw meaty bones per week though (chicken, turkey, pork, all soft edibles bones smothered in meat) so that takes care of some scrubbing. i've started to brush his teeth now, making it a bedtime routine... he definitely has sucky teeth genetics!
my girl is on a raw diet (prey model) so she's good with her pearly whites
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So what bones are good for our big dogs? I bought raw buffalo knuckle bones for Halo (lab X) and Shadow (Akita X). Needless to say they both loved them, but Halo just smashes them to bits chewing them up. When I picked up her poop one night it was full of sharp splinters I immediately threw the bones out and still have one in the freezer that I won't give them now. Apparently her chew-ability is good! They both eat Go Natural dog kibble - not a raw diet so I'm always curious about what bones would be okay for them. They love them but Halo is the bone destroyer!
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i wish i knew some dogs just power through anything... my friend's pitbull is mister destructo, he's been stealing forks and spoons lately and bending them into exotic pretzels (i've seen his artwork!) and yet his teeth are intact...
some dogs do well chewing on big raw bones (femur or knuckle), some break their teeth on them and others break the bones and eat the splinters. if anyone has a solution for recreational chewing i'd love to hear about it, LOL!
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Ok
I've been giving mine raw, frozen beef marrow bones, the soup kind. She gets a little runnier crap than normal, but it does miracles for the teeth, and is hours of enjoyment. Now I've heard of giving raw chicken bones, etc, but I am afraid of things getting stuck. With the beef shank (I think) bones, she rarely manages to break them and just gets a good teeth cleaning. What are opinions out there about other bones like chicken as mentionned? Can't they cause choking, internal injuries, etc? |
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However,
The wild dogs would probably rarely live out their full life spans, as I would hope my dogs do. I also hope to avoid any 4-figure veterinary bills. I guess I'm lucky so far, my dogs haven't swallowed any non-edibles to my knowledge! I don't tend to give them sharp pointy toys either though. |
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Technodoll, how about a link about wolf longevity from a site that isn't pushing raw?
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Original Question:
What are opinions out there about other bones like chicken as mentionned? Can't they cause choking, internal injuries, etc? Unecessarily Snarky part of Answer: well sure, anything is possible. so is choking on toys, sticks, socks, kibble, tennis balls and the ensuing obstructions. vets have had to remove the most incredible things stuck in a dog's intestines Another Snarky comment: i guess you would know those facts better than i do... are you actively involved in the study and analysis of the earth's wildelife? Snarky answer: Probably at least as involved in it as you are, perhaps even more. |
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Cooked bones can splinter and get lodged very easily in the throat or GI tract and should be avoided. Raw bones can still be choked on, break teeth, break off into big chunks that block the GI tract somewhere requiring an operation, but it doesn't happen as often as it does with rawhides or other bones (so they say).
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http://www.petprotect.co.uk/ThingsDogsHaveEaten.shtml is that list long enough for you, or do you want more? Quote:
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Timber wolf: http://www.colszoo.org/animalareas/n...anpg/wolf.html Quote:
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Sorry , back on the bone topic there, ummm? Anyone have any "horror" stories about moose, caribou, deer and beef bones?? thats what my dogs chew on. We have a freezer FULL of them. Every once and a while we pull a few out and toss them to the dogs. No problems yet, but I have always wondered if freezing them did anything to the bones ( besides freezing them lol)
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Please keep discussions civilized. Bickering back and forth will only lead to individuals discrediting information simply for tone and attitude of posters. Remember that you catch more flies with honey. Thank you.
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Freezing bones does not alter their chemistry (like cooking or smoking does), the only thing is does is halt bacteria growth during the freeze period.
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Great, i was wondering about that for a while , thanks techno!
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