Rescue workers, Torontonians...

[Chris21711]

Originally Posted by BenMax

The sad thing about this 'dispute' is that the animals pay for it. Shame on them both.

Yep, Politics shouldn't be an issue when trying to save lives, be it animal, human or otherwise :sad:

[BenMax]

Originally Posted by Chris21711

Yep, Politics shouldn't be an issue when trying to save lives, be it animal, human or otherwise :sad:

Politics, ego and who is better than who. So darn pathetic!

[Love4himies]

Originally Posted by BenMax

The sad thing about this 'dispute' is that the animals pay for it. Shame on them both.

So right, BenMax, both their reputations will be tarnished which may discourage people from donating. :sad:

[BenMax]

Why cannot rescues, animal control, HS, shelters kill or no kill just put their guns down, put on their gosh darn thinking caps on and come up with some solutions??? I am so darn sick of the bickering back and forth. They offer nothing in the end. And they are the voices for the voiceless as they always say? The voiceless would be saying shut the F up and SAVE ME!

OMG is this ever going to be understood?

[NoahGrey]

Originally Posted by BenMax

Politics, ego and who is better than who. So darn pathetic!

Very true and sad. The no kill grip about the kill shelters and the kill shelters grip about the no kill shelters. It all comes down to money and what will make them look good. That goes for non profit and city run shelters.

Sorry a little off topic...

Look at TAS. They euth over 50% of what they bring in, but yet get millions of dollars each year from our government. How come these resources are not being used to decrease euth rates in their shelters. Why...because this would interfere with their wages, and the thousands of dollars in equipment, such as computers, etc. I also don't understand why a shelter can preach about the importance of spaying and neutering your pet, when they don't even do that for their adopted animals. Yes, they have a spay and neuter clinic, but they leave that option up to the new owner. Not really pro active in the helping to decrease the pet overpopulation or there animals would be fixed before they went home. Again...it all comes down to money.

And I think the police are involved when Agents obtain a search warrent, due to safety issues. Until Agents are able to carry firearms, police will assist. Right now, Agents carry the ASP stick, OC spray and up until a few months-a year ago, they have been issues vests...which are not even bullet proof, but classifed as punture resistant....which means, a knife could go through. And Chris is right, Agent training is not 2 days...Years ago it was. Then they put it too a week long training section and now it is 4 weeks of training.

ACO22

[Chris21711]

Originally Posted by ACO22

Agent training is not 2 days...Years ago it was.

You are right on that ACO22.

Then they put it too a week long training section

My daughter did two weeks when she did hers 2 years ago.

and now it is 4 weeks of training.

ACO22

The four weeks training is now done at Guelph University.

[NoahGrey]

Yeah, I know Chris and you are right it is now at Guelph University. Alot more is now being covered. We just had two officers who finished the course and passed.

As for me, no course for me. I have decided to go back to school and broaden my passon of animals and their welfare and wildlife conservation fits the bill. I am taking the fish and wildlife Tech program in the fall. I love the Animal Control field, however I wanted to also broaden the many aspects of animal welfare. One aspect that I am very interested in is Wetland Conservation. A home to many many different species of wildlife, from mammals, frogs, turtles, waterfowl, ducks, insects, plants, trees, etc.

ACO22

[Sylvie]

There are 2 sides to every story and then there is the truth !

My worth

[Chris21711]

Originally Posted by Sylvie

There are 2 sides to every story and then there is the truth !

My worth

I'm confused by your statement Sylvie ....I know it doesn't take much to confuse me

[14+kitties]

Originally Posted by Sylvie

There are 2 sides to every story and then there is the truth !

My worth

Originally Posted by Chris21711

I'm confused by your statement Sylvie ....I know it doesn't take much to confuse me

I can't say for sure what Sylvie means but I can tell you what the saying means Chris. I haven't read this whole thread. Just bits and pieces. So I am only commenting on the old saying Sylvie put out.

It means each side has "their story" as they perceive it. Of course it leans heavily on their side being the right one. Somewhere in amongst the "stories" the people put out there is the truth. It is almost impossible to figure out what that truth is.

[Chris21711]

I knew what the saying meant...I was thinking that Sylvie maybe knew more......yoou know what I mean

[Love4himies]

Boy this sounds like the Montreal SPCA all over again.

It is very hard to please all the people, especially when it comes to something they are so passionate about like these precious animals.


We all have our own thoughts on what is best for the animals.

[Golden Girls]

If even some of these accusations are true the people living in that area (Arwen81's link says within 60 km of 11 River Street) should register to qualify and vote out Trow & friends.

Sounds alot like what happened here and many thought it would be impossible to throw Barnoti to the curb but he was

Doubt it's ALL disgrunted ex employees, staff and other shelters

In order for change all three sides must be told! It'll hurt donations/adoptions but must look at the bigger picture

[Arwen81]

There is a new article this morning in the GTA section of the Toronto Star if anyone is interested.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/682797

The same article was published in the Toronto Metro.

[Chris21711]

The saga continues

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/687675

[Love4himies]

And what is the mission it was created for?

[Arwen81]

From Today
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1270106/

Friday August 28th
http://www.thestar.com/article/687675

Tuesday August 25th
http://www.thestar.com/article/685965


Thursday August 20th
http://www.thestar.com/article/683077

[BenMax]

All this is sounding very familiar to similiar situation a few years back here. It took 15 years to resolve THAT one.

In all this, who suffers? Really, if you are a true animal lover, one would step down in order to give everything a break and ensure the animals will be cared for. This is about egos and not about animal welfare.

[Arwen81]

Two new articles

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/694945

http://www.torontosun.com/news/toron...67316-sun.html

[Arwen81]

Huge article today in the Globe and Mail about the 2006 investigation into the Toronto Humane Society. Included in the article is a link to the 2006 report that a private investigators group submitted to the OSPCA.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1306348/