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Another owner who wants to declaw
Hi!
I'm working on a tough customer right now. There's this girl whose father runs an animal shelter. They took in two young cats (1 or 2 years old.), and the girl is thinking of fostering the cats. The only thing is, both the father and daughter seem pretty dead set on declawing them. She has a dog, and she's worried about the dog getting scratched. She says the dog is her baby and wouldn't tolerate the slightest scratch. I told her what declawing entails. She didn't know and seemed shocked, but even so she still would rather have the cats mutilated than have her "precious baby" scratched. I tried explaining to her that cats are not demon spawn who scratch for the fun of it. If her puppy gets scratched, it's because he cornered the cats. They'll hiss and run away before they actually scratch. One of my cats has all her claws, and I've never had a bloody swipe! And they fight all the time! I did convince her to do some research, and she did, but I don't know if it will have much of an effect. Not only that, both cats are unaltered, and apparently the dad is more interested in the declawing than the neutering. She kept saying how her dad knows so much about animals and all that. Come on! Declawing is illegal in over 37 countries! Doesn't that tell her something? Please send me some good vibes on this. I want to save these kitties' toes! I can't afford to take them in myself, or I would have done so in a heartbeat. Heck, I'll eat peanut butter sandwiches and kraft dinner if she remains dead set on the delcawing so I can take them in. Sorry, it makes me mad when people want to declaw cats. Here's a few links you might want to share if you encounter this problem(Warning, the first one has very graphic images): http://www.pawsneedclaws.com/Declaw_Information.php http://cat-care.suite101.com/article...declawing_cats http://www.declawing.com/ http://www.articlealley.com/article_695671_54.html http://www.vetinfo.com/declawing-dangers.html
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also tell her .... if the cats are declawed and can't defend themselves from the dog , they'll bite the dog |
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They shouldn't be getting cats if they're so overwhelming concerned about them scratching that they're willing to mutilate them (causing them extreme pain and long-term harm) to suit their own needs.
My favorite website on the topic of declawing: http://www.pawproject.com/html/ Maybe this part will help in their decision: http://www.pawproject.com/html/faqs.asp Is declawing a painful procedure?
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[QUOTE=Frenchy;929857] Did you show her those pictures ? [QUOTE]
I sure did! I hope she sees the light. There was this other guy, ususally sweet, who recently adopted a kitten. He wanted to have it declawed and I tried to convince him otherwise, but I failed. :sad: He even had the gall to laugh in my face saying that he couldn't be bothered with training the cat. He was just happy not to have to worry about his furniture getting destroyed. Sorry, I must scream.
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Hoping the cat will pee all over his furnitures
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Bluedrake,I don't understand why these people even want cats,would they pull out their dogs teeth if he bites.
I just find it sickening anyone would mutilate a precious little cat,the thought would not even occur to me. My son got a little female cat from a sister-inlaw,declawed on all four paws this little girl-kitty is terrified of everyone,except my son,hides under the bed when he's not at home My vet has a beautiful large orange male cat,who someone dumped at the door,also declawed on all four paws,not only will they not be able to scratch furniture,but they are often not able to grab toys,or climb a fence or tree,should they be chased. It's pure animal-cruelty and should have been banned here,a long time ago. Good luck trying to convince these people
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I hear you Chico2.
There was a time I didn't know about declawing and what it meant. I got a kitten then, and I named him Casimir. I intended to have him declawed at all four paws. I am ashamed to this day I ever considered it. Casimir died within four days of feline panleukopemia (a pneumonia like disease). I think it was fate that he died before the surgery could happen. His death prompted me to research everything I could about proper cat care, and that's how I found out about declawing and pet nutrition. It's also how I found this forum. Since then, Chinook came into my life. She suffered from bloody stool and painful elimination. A grain-free diet solved it. Then it was Erin, with all her claws intact. She never had any problems, because I got her as a kitten. Then came Mimi, who weighted 16 pounds. Grain-free food brought her back to 10. One vet recommended MORE fiber for Chinook, declawing for Erin and a grain-heavy prescription diet for Mimi. To that vet, I say F*** YOU! The other vet in the same clinic said :"I know you watch your cats carefully, so I'll trust you to do what's best". To that vet, I say THANK YOU.
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You have gotten some very good info!
I would like to add, that I have a friend who has had his arm partially amputated and have spoken to him about the "phantom" pain. He will be on painkillers for the rest of his life . If anybody tells her that cats don't feel the pain of amputation, then I would simply ask her "How do you know?, a cat can't communicate what they feel." Cats are notorious for hiding pain, an animal in pain in the wild is one that is hunted. Good luck!!!
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I truly hope they do not decide to foster these two cats. If they do a declawed cat can still wreck furniture and do some damage to a dog's face. I had a kitty for 19 years who was declawed. He still went after the couch as if he had claws. It eventually wore down the fibers and the couch split. Not a biggie. Furniture is replacable.
As for her precious dog being scratched - it doesn't sound like she should have the responsibility of fostering these cats if she is worried about that. With proper introductions and training they should not fight. Ask her to have some high shelves available for the cats. That way if the dog comes after them they have a place to hide. Proper intros usually lead to a happy family. As Frenchy said - if the dog harassess' them they will bite. I would be more concerned with that than scratches.
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Get some stick on claw caps like Soft Paws, that way the cat can be observed to see if it even goes after furniture/the dog etc. The caps are pretty cheap and if you get nice bright ones they are easy enough to find a glue back on when they fall off. Saves pain, money and a surgery.
http://www.softpaws.com/ |
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I've found just clipping the cats nails is enough... Granted, my cat doesn't scratch anything other than his cat trees.
Why doesn't Canada follow so many other countries and ban this un-necessary procedure, already? |
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It's disturbing to know that the father runs an animal shelter. Honestly, I can't think of anyone who could run a shelter knowing what cats go through when left outside, knowing the enemies they have to contend with, and still want to declaw.
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I am curious, what are the countries where declawing is illegal? Why isn't the US among them? How does a country go about banning this?
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To BrownEyedGirl,
declawing is illegal in England, Scotland, Sweden, Australia and most European countries. The USA still does it because it is a very lucrative procedure for the vets.
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