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View Poll Results: What food for Boo (and other dogs who can eat neither poultry not WK...) UNICHOICE
California Natural Herring and Sweet potato 0 0%
Canidae Lamb and Rice 1 8.33%
DVP Sweet potato and fish 2 16.67%
Evo Red Meat 2 16.67%
Evo +California Natural Herring 0 0%
Evo +Canidae Lamb 5 41.67%
Evo +DVP sweet potato+fish 0 0%
All of the above. 1 8.33%
Feed him canned instead. 0 0%
My choice is not here or I know something better and I've posted it below. 1 8.33%
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 11:36 PM
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Ok, but if regular is more grainy, and the dog digests less, why does he eat more of the non-grainy one? Wouldn't more of the regular one be 'wasted'?
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 11:38 PM
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that, i do not know... maybe the company doesn't care and just want people to feed their dogs alot more than they need to... sells more product...

wanna write to California Natural and ask?
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 11:39 PM
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Prin, why don't you email Innova....they are really good about answering.
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 11:40 PM
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TD types faster than me with the same question.
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 11:41 PM
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rainbow, must be all that banana cake that i'm not having!
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Old September 23rd, 2006, 11:42 PM
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Yeah, I probably will.

On the downside, the Evo RM has made Jemma a drooler.
On the upside, she still ravages it. Boo is ok with it, but not ravagey.

I hope they come out with bigger kibbles because Boo chews his food and he's having a hard time figuring out the small kibbles.
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Old September 24th, 2006, 12:25 AM
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Drooling cuz it's so yummy?

BTW, Go Natural (Petcurean) is coming out with an equivalent to Orijen and EVO.
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Old September 24th, 2006, 12:27 AM
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Go Natural (Petcurean) is coming out with an equivalent to Orijen and EVO.
are you serious! that is AWESOME! i love go!natural... where did you get the info, and can i see too? :queen:
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Old September 24th, 2006, 12:38 AM
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Drooling cuz it's so yummy?
YES. And it's icky. Last week, she was my dainty girl. This week, she's my fartin' droolin' man-dog.
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Old September 24th, 2006, 12:40 AM
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it'll take a little while for jemma's exhaust pipe to regulate itself must have patience, LOL! wear a gas mask?... or add some canned pumpkin... some rice water... a cork... (kidding!)
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The lady at the pet store here told me. I checked Petcurean's website and it says it's "under construction" so they must be updating. I'm also interested and maybe it will have larger kibble for Jemma.
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actually petcurean.com works fine....

petcurean. ca is not the right site. oops!
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For Boo! Jemma needs the small kibble (easier to inhale).
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Old September 24th, 2006, 01:01 AM
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actually petcurean.com works fine....

petcurean. ca is not the right site. oops!
LOL, I guess I should have thought to check that. Even so, petcurean.com needs to seriously update their website....their latest news release is from 2004.
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For Boo! Jemma needs the small kibble (easier to inhale).

Hey, that's two screw-ups in a row for me....I must be getting tired.
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omg that is so gross. I'm going to hug my non-droolies now.
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On the downside, the Evo RM has made Jemma a drooler.
hehe, You spoke too soon in my other thread Prin
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Old September 24th, 2006, 08:37 AM
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My suggestion is feed less than the recommended, if you have a weigh scale at home and are able to left one of the dog , weigh yourself first and then pick up a dog and weigh, then subtract your weight, keep an eye on the weight inorder to adjust the food amount, my vet is only a short drive so I used their scales. Remember with a high protein meat diet what is not used by the body simply gets excreted , it won't put on the fat like grains do, but may build more muscle so you may see some weight gain, so if you are feeding more than necessary it is getting excreted so you judge the amount by loss of weight if they start losing you know to up the amount a bit, my dogs are not getting near the recommended amounts for their weight/age
Maya is 10 lbs over her racing weight gets closer to 1 3/4 cups as she is more active especially now that the weather is cooling off in the hotter summer months I cut her back to 1 1/2 Evo RM recommends on the bag for her size 2 1/2 to 3 cups(60 - 80 lbs) so she gets a cup less and she still gained needed weight

This is what she looked like at 60lbs pretty much a bone rack - note the waist line not the greatest pic my camera had a slow shutter speed so I lost her head


I have no side shots but this is looking down on her so you can see spine and hips, she is close to 70 here, has a nice tuck but her hip pin bones and spine is covered still shows outline of her last 2 ribs.


Sunny is the big boy at 84 lbs he is the lazy one, recommended feeding is 3 to 3 1/2 he gets 1 1/2 cups he is stocky for a grey. when I started him on he was 89 lb and lost 5 which he needed, but since his weight held, his racing weight was 76lbs



I am not starving either of them, they both are over their original racing weights, I like to keep a bit of extra meat on them so if they do get sick they have something to drawn from
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Old September 24th, 2006, 09:52 AM
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Hey, that's two screw-ups in a row for me....I must be getting tired.
lol yeah, that's why I went to bed.

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hehe, You spoke too soon in my other thread Prin
No kidding. Shouldn't have bragged like that before.

If Jemma's got stool like a rabbit, am I feeding her too little? I think the loose stool yesterday and Friday was just from the switch... Now, for the first time in her life, she's got "pellets". (lucky nobody here minds the load talk... ) But she's still loving it and I think she loves me a bit more since I got that food...

Boo is just sort of blasé about it all.
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If Jemma's got stool like a rabbit, am I feeding her too little? I think the loose stool yesterday and Friday was just from the switch... Now, for the first time in her life, she's got "pellets".
Maybe with all that drooling she is getting a little dehydrated, is she drinking more to compensate or maybe less because she is too busy watching the bag of food? Here we are not pellets just smaller and firmer, which is why I think she may be a little dehydrated. I do wet the kibble when I feed not to make soggy, just to have it slide down the throat easier, so they are not coughing it up if they attempt to eat too fast. So one idea add water to the kibble if she is not dirinking as much that or give some veggies/fruit id she likes.

How much does Jemma weigh? Is she fairly active? How much are you trying to feed now?
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Old September 24th, 2006, 11:15 AM
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She's 55-60lbs and is fairly athletic. Yesterday, I'd say I gave her two cups total. She drinks a lot usually.
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We did an immediate switch as well.. and 2/3rd of her daily food is freeze dried/ high protein..
Her poop is smaller than it's been in a long time.. Not rabbit pellets, but noticeably smaller.. and she isn't doing her usual two loads in the morning that she's done for a long while.. It's now just one..
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Jemma's really happy on it though...
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Old September 25th, 2006, 08:52 AM
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for all those nice smaller firmer poops! down with grains, down with grains!
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One of the real high lights of the EVO is the after winter yard poo clean up, what an amazing difference in amount that had to be picked up and the length of time it took
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Old September 27th, 2006, 10:52 PM
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Ok so I got the DVP Fish today...

In a taste test yesterday with Boo, Evo RM was the clear winner over WK, but Jemma was about 60/40 for the Evo RM, but very enthusiastic for both.

In today's taste test, Boo chose the DVP over the RM. Jemma on the other hand devoured the RM and literally spat the DVP out.

I think it's the texture of it they don't really enjoy because they chew it funny. Normally, if Jemma doesn't like the smell of something, she doesn't even take it. She took the DVP, crunched it and spat it out.
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i find that dogs, like humans, have days where they like A better than B, then it switches. ... so it's good to have a little variety in the diet
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Well, they both ate fine today, with 1/4 of it being DVP for both... Boo was happier, that's for sure. Jemma is just Jemma.
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But, at least everything is going well so far.
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Old September 28th, 2006, 09:19 PM
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How am I going to know if they have internal bleeding if the stool is already black?
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Old September 28th, 2006, 09:27 PM
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if there are any broken glasses missing from your house, the dogs ate them and they need emergency vet care!

(ha ha all a joke, of course)
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