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Old December 13th, 2006, 07:54 PM
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high protein cat foods and FLUTD

hi everybody,
i'd like to put my cats onto a high protein cat food like EVO, but i'm concerned about the ash content. i find ash of 9-10% in all the foods and i know that in order to have a high protein food, a lot of meat is required and that ash (mineral content) is proportionate to the meat content. since i haven't heard of these types of diets leading to an increased incidence of crystaluria and blockage, i'm wondering why.
i hypothesize that it may have to do with the urinary pH which is produced by such a high protein diet (ie one that it is much lower than other foods) which precludes the precipitation of triple ammonium phosphate crystals in the urine. i certainly haven't head of the newer prescription diabetic feline diets causing this problem, and they are based on the same high protein principle.
or maybe foods like this are just so new that no links have been drawn.
does anybody else have any other ideas?
i have found evidence that high protein diets can prevent struvite formation, but i have yet to come across anyone with anicdotal evidence which supports this.
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Old December 13th, 2006, 09:07 PM
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I think it's the reduced quantity needed. 10% of 2 cups is less than 5% of 5 cups... (Just relating it to what I feed my dogs- both on evo and on crap )
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Old December 14th, 2006, 04:07 PM
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i'm not sure this is it, as 10% of 2 (0.1 x 2) is 0.2 and 5% of 5 (0.05 x 5) is 0.25. unless i'm converting wrong.

prin, i don't suppose that you had a urinanalysis run before and after the switch. did you happen to notice if urinary pH changed when you switched? i'd be curious if anyone putting their animals on a higher protein diet noticed a pH increase or decrease. i'm particularly interested in cats, but info from dogs might help make a circumstantial case as well.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 08:28 PM
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I have my 3 cats on Evo. One got sick a few weeks ago. bad infection. Very close to dieing :sad: They ran a bunch of blood work and tested the urin and it was normal. And after he recovered, the vet was happy with his levels.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 10:34 PM
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As a vet tech, wouldn't you have access to that info?

I haven't done any urine tests on Jemma yet, but her blood tests are fine and were fine before.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 10:34 PM
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Oh and ya:
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i'm not sure this is it, as 10% of 2 (0.1 x 2) is 0.2 and 5% of 5 (0.05 x 5) is 0.25. unless i'm converting wrong.
is right, and 0.2 is less than 0.25.
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