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Using a Manual Grinder?
Hi,
I really can't find this addressed anywhere -- does anyone know if it's possible (or have experience with) grinding raw chicken bones and all using one of those manual turn-crank grinders? Chicken bones aren't as tough as beef bones or even turkey. So I'm thinking it's possible to use a manual grinder for chicken. Any comments would be appreciated. The Hans |
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If the chicken's cut up into smaller pieces, the blades are sharp, and you've got a strong arm, I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Is there a reason why you don't feed whole pieces to your pets?
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It's not fun at all and can be very time consuming.i just stopped after a few times.if i ever switch back to raw i want to get an electric one that will grind bones.the one i was using was a small one.
Depending on where you live.i was at princess auto and they have a real big one there that might grind the bone with little effort. |
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Thanks for your replies. We want to grind the chicken ourselves for a complete raw food. We've been buying prepared raw food, but it's just getting way too expensive to do it this way. We can't find anyone in our vicinity who will grind chicken (like a butcher). So we have to do it ourselves. It sounds like we'll need an electric grinder, though I'm surprised as I thought a manual grinder would do the trick for chicken bones specifically. But I think I'm mistaken.
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Is there any reason why you can't just give whole meat/bone peices to your pet?
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Chicken is far more moist or squishy than, say, beef. It tends to sort of disintegrate into a disgusting paste that gets stuck in the grinder and won't forward properly, leaving you to try to push it along, clean it out and generally get raw chicken pate all over the place. Or at least that was my experience with a couple of different grinders which worked perfectly well on firmer/drier meats........ |
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I can give pieces, but it's not a complete food. We want to make a complete raw food for our cats. We're currently buying prepared raw food, but it's getting way too expensive. The Hans |
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Still don't quite understand...complete food would just mean providing the right portions of meat, bone and organ (75-80%, 10%, 15%) over the course of a week... our dogs and cats are eating raw and we never grind their food. I think you're making a lot more work for yourself than you really need to.
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You might be right. But our cats are currently on a prepared, ground meal and they love it. And are used to it. We just prefer to go this way. The Hans |
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The thicker bones like the leg are really tough to gind.i only started to grind because my dog stopped digesting bone.so i tried to hand grid the chicken and the legs and joints took an hour or so for 1 meal to grind up and the meat just packs up in the grinder.if your going to grind i would just buy the carcess and grind the small bones and just feed the meat with out grinding.chicken bones are soft enough in a raw form for them to chew themselves plus it helps keep the teeth and gums clean.with you won't get from grinding.
Last edited by angeldogs; February 6th, 2009 at 02:47 PM. |
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Fair enough, whatever works for you guys. (I'm pretty lazy so throwing down peices of meat/bone/offal works well for us). Keep in mind, though, than many of the dental benefits are lost through grinding. ANYhoo. Have you considered asking your butcher to do the grinding for you? You could just grind the meat, and add bone meal instead of grinding the bone.
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For what it's worth, this seems to be the popular choice amongst raw feeders who grind. Expensive for sure, but maybe you could find one on ebay or craigslist or the like?
Dr. Pitcairn's New Complete Guide to Natural Health For Dogs and Cats goes into detail about various options regarding calcium supplementation if you can't continue to feed bone. |
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That would be the way to go if your going to gind.be much faster and you could easily make up a big batch and freeze it.then pull out and thaw what you would need for the week or a few days at a time.
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No doubt, I wouldn't personally buy it, but a hand grinder is a nightmare with chicken and this seems to be one of the few grinders that can deal with bone, or so one would believe after reading many reviews by raw feeders
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This Northern Tool grinder is fine for handling chicken: http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...70_36989_36989
It's the same as this Tasin one, which is very popular with the feline raw food people: http://www.onestopjerkyshop.com/prod...products_id=47 You might be able to find one on eBay for cheaper, although shipping costs could be an issue.
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Does anyone have experience using this Waring one for chicken bones?
http://www.sears.ca/gp/product/B000F...earsBrand=core I know it's not heavy-duty, but we're talking chicken bones, not beef bones. The Hans |
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I too will attest to the torture of putting chicken through a manual grinder. Not worth it IMO. When I did do it though, I would make a huge batch and freeze it in small meal size portions using little 1/2 cup mason jars.
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I'd recommend checking out restaurant and butcher equipment outlets. Expensive but they often have second hand grinders that are quite affordable.
I have to tell you though, we have a table top industrial grinder at work and it starts to overheat after only 7-8 minutes of grinding bones. I can go an extra 5 minutes or so before letting it cool down if I alternate chicken necks with meat. We have another giant floor model one that does bones easily (but you'll have to remortgage your home for one ) and even with that one, I have to sharpen the blades after grinding.
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