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I do respect your opinion though and can certainly understand why you, and others, are upset
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I was thinking something similar, onster. It's as though he's trying to provoke some thought about the subject...contrasting his ingrained bias with the truth about Rocky. Not sure if he was successful, given the tendencies of people to read uncritically, but that idea did come to mind as I was reading. From the few logged comments that I had the time to read earlier, if that was his intent, a lot of people missed it....
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Everyone knows my views haha,and yes Rocky has one handsome pitty smile. They are a wonderful breed.
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That comment particularly made me laugh. And if he was saying anything similar about my breed I'd be laughing too. Cattle dogs can be described in a bad way, you don't hear about the girl of mine that adopted a lamb, the ones that guard anyone's children, love cats etc., but this guy was funny, and he left me feeling like here is this power house of a dog that's saying look at this beautiful smile, and if you stand still long enough I'll slobber you to death. He didn't finish the article by saying he was relieved he got away unscathed from his encounter. We had a worse guy here with his own TV show who would take every opportunity to say something bad about my breed, even down to doing a segment on a different breed and finishing it by reaching down to pull up his trouser leg, saying that unlike an ACD it won't do this to you. LOL. An itsy bitsy bite mark.
3xm, you said A quick and dirty poll of my dog/ non-dog friends found it was received as neither funny nor self-mocking. I would suggest that your friends know your stance on this, so that is what I would expect you to say, but I'm an Aussie that has had nothing to do with that breed and who once believed the anti hype about pb's, so isn't it good that I got the impression of it being a friendly , albeit slobbery, smiley dog? It just wasn't bad publicity IMO. |
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Ummm, have to tell you, I thought the article was funnier than the photo. The article was like "Oh, gee, maybe this isn't as bad as I feared". LOL. And he didn't mind admitting the women showed him up. The owner of this dog was a great ambassador for the breed too, as many smiles as the dog by the sound of things.
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Well, I don't know pb's at all. Do you think that basically they're benign but can be and are sometimes trained to be aggressive? A balanced dog will bite an adult before it bites a kid? Yes, I agree with that. I had a mother yelling about getting her toddler out from under the table with my first cattle dog and had to tell her if she didn't shut up, she'd get bitten herself. LOL. If that dog had thought her a threat to the toddler she'd have been in trouble. The child was not! That dog adored kids.
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Rocky, it seemed to me, liked to pump iron.
Or eat it. Now with people, I make it a habit not to judge a book by its cover. There was a time in my life when some of my best friends dressed like hoodlums... Each, of course, was a peach. But with dogs, I'm still stuck on book = cover. And to my (at least when it comes to canines) judgmental mind, Pit Bulls = trouble.[/QUOTE] No he IS the iron....and the columnist is right I guess,cause the cover thats on the book of media biases has his picture on it....and I do believe there is a salavaiting Rocky sitting beside him with sharp long teeth, and evil stare. |
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I guess this debate could go on forever. We don't know what was going through the author's head, we can only go by what he wrote, period.
I didn't read anything in that article that did pitbulls any favours. Some people may have thought the tone of the article was humorous, but that is an assumption on their part, no facts to contrary. I didn't read where the author thought that Rocky was a gentle, loving dog . He talked about barring teeth, and pitbulls = trouble, and that he was happy the owner had a substantial leash . As mx3 stated, John Q Public is reading this article, not necessarily those who are doggy smart and realize that Rocky is a sweet and lovable dog. Even if we assume the author meant for it to be humorous, is it really funny? I don't think so. Had the author been writing about African Americans and comparing them to muggers, or Muslims as terrorists, or Catholic Priests as pedophiles, then it wouldn't be so funny and we would be calling the author a racist and demanding the newspaper retract the column. Pit bulls here in Ontario are being unfairly judged, they are assumed guilty by their looks, not on their actions. Many families have had to experience unnecessary grief due to our discriminatory laws. Military families (and others) who are posted into Ontario are having to say goodbye to beloved family pets, not because they had done anything wrong but because they are a pitbull. Pitbulls are being put to death, not for what they have done but by who their parents are. If the author wanted to portray his biased thoughts on pitbulls being trouble, then he should have made it clear in the article and given Rocky the fair description of being a sweet and lovable dog. I just fail to see any humor in this at all.
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my beagle did eat iron, and flack (stuff that fall off when your welding),...she was operated on once for it.
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Good guns also wont go bad from lack of socialization, good guns (and bad ones) have to be locked up at all times. Even the best bully not socialized and always locked up not excercised could very well go bad.
I'm not a fan of the analogy, a gun is incapable of acting on its own with out direct physical stimiuli, where a dog of any breed does act on its own but how it acts owes a lot to the person behind it with physical and mental influence, but I get your point on the matter.
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So glad to see so many different views.....Great thread
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Awwww, thanks LMPG. I just hate the pitbull ban here, it just turns my stomach
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LOL, just scrolling through posts, I didn't know this was here LOL.. Yes, I'm a member, and yes, that's my Rockstar with Olivia Chow, seems we can get into trouble just answering the door.. Olivia has known Rocky for years which would have been obvious to Mr. Cudmore who is supposedly a "political journalist" he has since answered our complaints about this article with something like, What we should have gotten out of the article was that despite the reputation of the breed, Rocky gave Kisses not bites.. I thought, TOO bad that's not what YOU wrote.. but I am over it now.
It as actually broadcasted over CBC radio, nationally.. and i am in the background going "kisses Rocky, Kisses" and to think there was a federal Election going on and still the "Pit Bull" gets the coverage! However, it obviously went ok for Olivia and Rocky is claiming full responsibility for the "Orange Wave" LOL PS.. yes, I think it's funny now but when I read the part that says, Rocky bared his teeth, which of course NEVER happened and NEVER would.. I was VERY upset.
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trying to post a pic, everything has changed since last i did this!
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Awwww, what a beautiful boy
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Awe, that is just too, too adorable. The "Rockstar" is a gorgeous boy.
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*L* I love the picture, for some reason it reminds me of the politicians that kiss the babies *L*
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A great pic of Rocky the politician,a beautiful boy
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