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Old September 7th, 2010, 10:38 PM
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Over Vaccination of Dogs

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have read in Australia recently that you shouldnt vaccinate your pet every year. We get the regular postcard from the vet as a reminder every year and roll up to have the annual vaccinations.
Since our dog has developed a nerve problem in one leg - which started to show itself a week or so after his last vaccination, its of great concern to us that there may be a connection.
Of course it could be unrelated, but timing makes me think differently. He was extremely healthy and agile and then all of a sudden this. maybe its not the vaccination,but the more research i do on the internet the more evidence i get that there is a connection.
would be interested to hear of any other 'coincidences' that have happened to others.
No Vet is going to admit it could be the problem and when i mentioned the chance with the specialist - it was a very quick - definately no.. he didn't have the vaccination near his leg. but who knows really. would they admit it even if it was true. I doubt it.
These regulations have come into the veterinary association in Australia recently to not vaccinate every year, but we still get our regular postcards from the vet... very disheartening...

x fletchers mum
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Old September 8th, 2010, 04:11 PM
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My chi had a reaction to his rabies shot.he lost all the hair around his injection site about a dime size circle. I still get all my dogs vaccinated. The point of yearly vaccinations *to my understanding* is to keep the immunity up in the system. Kinda like me taking my allergy pills at the same time every day so i don't have a drop in my system and then get an attack. My oldest is autistic and many people have told me that it was because of vaccinations. I still continued him with the vaccinations along with my other children. Also seeing what my parents just went through with their dog and parvovirus I intend to keep my dogs and cats vaccinations up to date. I also cross the boarder about 3 times a week with my dogs and they need the proof of vaccinations. Long story short it is your dog and you can choose weather or not to vaccinate. The choice is yours.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 08:20 PM
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I think many of us here have gone to the three year protocol for vaccinations. There is evidence that some vacs. are effective for even longer than three years. Here is a link to Dr. Dodds' schedule: http://www.weim.net/emberweims/Vaccine.html

Something else that may be a option is titreing to see if the vaccination is still effective or not. In most, if not all, of N. America rabies is a required vaccination. If that's the case where you are then you might check with your municpality or whoever governs rabies vaccs. to see if tireing is acceptable and if so what levels are required.

Combining vaccs. is also a problem for some dogs so you might want to separate them, especially the rabies, from each other, if you can.

P.S. the nerve problem might be simply a miss aimed needle. I know a lady who suffered for months after it happened to her, they hit a nerve.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 08:40 PM
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We make a yearly visit for vaccinations.. but some of the vaccinations are every three years .. like Rabies and others are yearly. We just added giardia to the list after a very bad experience this summer .. Ami-TOLA on intervenous for fluids and antibiotics and then Holly sick 2 days later.. (not to mention $1200.) so now they will get this every year also. I also question which is the two of the evils for things like heartworm and flea control... you hear so much in the way of pros and cons. I want to make the best decisions for their welfare and longevity!! I chose to vaccinate! These guys are my babies and their lives go by way too fast as it is. I want to keep them as healthy as possible! (I make a lot of their food and dehydrated snacks so I know what they are eating) There are probably those out there who believe we are poisoning our pets by too many chemicals such as heart worm control... but I'd hate like heck to subject them to heart worm. I'm open minded and would love to hear opinions on all this......
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Old September 9th, 2010, 07:49 PM
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We've chosen to go with titer testing for rabies, parvovirus, and distemper. A little more expensive than the vaccinations but worth so much more imo.

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There is evidence that some vacs. are effective for even longer than three years.
We've had the chance to see that evidence firsthand. Penny was last vaccinated over 3 1/2 years ago. Her results from tests this summer... "Serologic/vaccine titers for parvovirus and distemper show very good / very good humoral immunity indicating that this dog should respond with a boosted anamnestic effect to afford memory response against these agents upon exposure." She had the same results for rabies. We'll have Lucky tested this Fall (last vaccines also over 3 1/2 yrs ago).

Distemper and parvo are checked every three years, rabies every year.

We also send blood to Hemopet where Dr. Jean Dodds does the final evaluations and return emails the results and a certificate. Having it sent there, including the shipping, actually cost less than getting the tests done locally .
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Old September 10th, 2010, 12:38 AM
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We make a yearly visit for vaccinations.. but some of the vaccinations are every three years .. like Rabies and others are yearly. We just added giardia to the list after a very bad experience this summer .. Ami-TOLA on intervenous for fluids and antibiotics and then Holly sick 2 days later.. (not to mention $1200.) so now they will get this every year also. I also question which is the two of the evils for things like heartworm and flea control... you hear so much in the way of pros and cons. I want to make the best decisions for their welfare and longevity!! I chose to vaccinate! These guys are my babies and their lives go by way too fast as it is. I want to keep them as healthy as possible! (I make a lot of their food and dehydrated snacks so I know what they are eating) There are probably those out there who believe we are poisoning our pets by too many chemicals such as heart worm control... but I'd hate like heck to subject them to heart worm. I'm open minded and would love to hear opinions on all this......
RobinH,

Around here (Southern Alberta), all vaccinations are offered as a three year. You may want to see if you can find a vet who will do that for you in your area. There has been some very concerning and legitimate evidence that has found that not only is vaccinating your dog/cat every year an unnecessary expense, it actually can have some scary health implications to our furry friends. By vaccinating less often, or opting for titre tests first, you are improving their welfare and longevity IMO.

By vaccinating every year, you may actually be unknowingly not be keeping them as healthy as possible. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. Its very obvious you love your fur children and want to make the best decisions for them and I respect that. But do your research. I think if heartworm, fleas etc. are a major concern where you live, it probably is not a bad idea, but I would research the different options out there and make sure you pick the most effective but also safe option.

Like you, I vaccinated my dogs every year until a few years ago when I started exploring a more "holistic" approach with my pets and started to do some research on the subject. I found some very concerning evidence from credible sources that changed my thoughts on vaccination altogether. I have stopped vaccinating my older dogs and intend on doing a titre test on them this fall. My female boxer I switched to a 3 year vaccine which she will receive once more when she is about 6, and then I will discontinue vaccinations. My youngest guy just received his boosters and will go back next year for a 3 year as well. Although some vets still push the traditional yearly vaccines, many are now moving towards and strongly recommending a three year.

Here are some good articles on over-vaccination in pets:

http://www.wellsphere.com/pet-health...ng-dogs/725367

http://www.pets.ca/dogs/articles/ove...cats-and-dogs/

If you google this topic, I am sure you can find much much more info out there.
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