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Old January 21st, 2013, 08:25 PM
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Vet says "not mange" but we have scabies!

We moved to a farm last summer. Since that time our two Newfoundland dogs (one is 6 years old, one is a 10 month old puppy) started itching. They are both on the BARF diet and healthy otherwise.

They have been treated by the vet with Advantage and Revolution. Still, they itch. The itching isn't incessant so the vet believes that this rules out mange. The issue is that our children and I are covered in scabies. It's been two months now and I'm going bananas! Regardless of my daily schedule of washing all of our bed sheets, scouring the floors and sofas, the scabies remain and itch, and itch, and itch... Unfortunately, I have a strong histamine response to bugs so I have been quite swollen and I'm starting to feel a little defeated in this battle.

I just brought the young dog into the vet's again about two weeks ago. The vet said that if it was mange, it would be presenting very differently (crazy scratching, lesions etc.). He has no lesions and his scratching is not constant by any stretch. I have spent a fortune on Revolution. They are getting it every two weeks, but it's not helping. Our scabies remain and the dogs itch.

I'm wondering if it's possible for mange to present in milder forms? They are healthy dogs in every other way. Could it be some other type of mite that's less well known? I'm feeling a little emotional about this. Our dogs are indoor/family dogs and we've had them outside while we battle this. Still, with these cold temperatures, we bring them in at night (I know, it's not helping, but I keep hoping something magical will happen with the spot treatment).

In case anyone is wondering, yes, it's been confirmed by a medical doctore that we have scabies (or, like I said, some weird skin rash from another type of mite that looks identical to scabies).

Thank you so much for reading this. I would be so appreciative to receive any suggestions.
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Old January 21st, 2013, 08:45 PM
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This sounds like its really frustrating. I cant even imagine. I did quickly google it and it did mention in one article that Ivermectin was prescribed for the human but only in difficult cases.

The other thing I am wondering is if this could possibly be confused with bedbugs. I know its awful to think of but they are rampant in Ontario and most people dont even realize they have them. They are not just situated on the bed of a person either.

What does the doctor say about the fact they are not going away after 2 months? I assume you have tried all the creams?

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 12:12 PM
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Thank you for your reply. It's definitely not bedbugs. I'm pretty savvy with bedbugs and this is not it. Bed bug bites present very differently.

Well, they just say that there's something being reintroduced into the environment. I know what that "something" is and he's black and fluffy with a pink tongue! It's because I'm bringing them in at night.

I don't think the solution is to leave them out at night. I need to find out what is on them and have it properly treated. There's no point on us continually poisoning ourselves with creams when the problem is still in the environment.

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 12:16 PM
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Did the vet do a scraping on either of your dogs? They'd be able to see mites if any were present.

Could your dogs just have dry skin? Our dogs always get itchy in fall through the winter unless we supplement with omega-3 oils. Right now they're on salmon oil and it cleared the problem up pretty quickly--we noticed less itching after just a couple of weeks.

I hope you can get a handle on the scabies. Sounds miserable!
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