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Old March 18th, 2008, 07:58 AM
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Unhappy I think my dog is sick

My pooch, Bob, is sick, I'm just not sure how sick. Came in last night and noticed that he was very lethargic. When I gave him his dinner he wasn't eating it with his usual gusto. When I looked at his bowl I noticed that he was puking everything he ate (or so I thought). I took the food away from him and tried to give him small pieces of vegetables instead. Those seemed to have gone down well. He's drooling excessively all night.

He was definitely not doing great and I figured he just had a small cold so I'd let him sleep it off. This morning when I woke up I noticed his paws were wet from all the drool he had during the night. Also noticed that he's panting mildly, more like breathing through his mouth. Gave him his breakfast and again he couldn't swallow and regurgitated everything. I figured I would make him an omelet instead and even that he couldn't swallow. All he does his produce enormous amount of drool (foam) from his mouth instead. Even his drinking seems hard as he drools/foams back into the water bowl.

I'm a little worried, I have a 3 O'clock appointment at the vets but I'm going nuts waiting. Anybody have any clue what this could be? He's a healthy 2 year old golden and normally when he's ill it takes 1 maybe 2 days and he's back on his feet. He's never been like he is now though. Am I over reacting? Nobody told me when I got a dog that I would go nuts when they're sick!
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Old March 18th, 2008, 08:29 AM
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Please take your dog the the emergency vet asap. This sounds like something that cannot wait until 3.00 and could be potentially life threatening for your dog.

I lost my chow to bloat, and he was was drooling excessively (foam) and panting. Hopefully that is not the case....but don't take the chance and wait.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 08:57 AM
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Please take your dog the the emergency vet asap. This sounds like something that cannot wait until 3.00 and could be potentially life threatening for your dog.

I lost my chow to bloat, and he was was drooling excessively (foam) and panting. Hopefully that is not the case....but don't take the chance and wait.
Good luck to your boy and keep us posted!
Ok I'm officially freaked out. I did just look up the symptoms of Bloat and he doesn't have any of the tell tale symptoms but I'm freaked out enough to take action. I will try and get out of work ASAP and take him to the vet...damn meetings.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 09:56 AM
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Could also be toxins that created a burns in his throat. Please let us know what the vet says.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 09:59 AM
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Good luck to Bob...good for you for not waiting it out any longer!
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Old March 18th, 2008, 10:13 AM
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Ok I'm officially freaked out. I did just look up the symptoms of Bloat and he doesn't have any of the tell tale symptoms but I'm freaked out enough to take action. I will try and get out of work ASAP and take him to the vet...damn meetings.
Could be a number of things.....many of which could be serious, but hopefully not. I am glad you are taking him in sooner.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 11:58 AM
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Any luck getting an earlier vet appt, bobsdad?

Please remember to keep us posted on what you find out! for Bob!
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Old March 18th, 2008, 12:42 PM
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Sending lots of good wishes for Bob. I hope you are able to get to the vet asap and that it is nothing too serious.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 12:48 PM
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Ok got back from the vet about an hour ago, sorry for the delay in posting back. Vet has no idea but is suspecting allergies. My dog is a vegetarian because he's allergic to meat. Eats meat and gets mega diarrhea. Due to this I monitor very carefully what he eats and I haven't fed him anything new lately. He might have snuck a treat at the dog park on Sunday but for it to take over 36 hours to manifest is unlikely. You give him meat and pretty much 3 hours later your knee deep in doggy doodoo.

She gave him a shot of cortisone and benedrile. He took a nap and now for the last 20 minutes has been trying to drink. I fill up the bowl and he just sits there licking away but no water is ingested. I have to refresh the water every few minutes because he's drooling profusely into the bowl. The vet did say that the drool is weird in itself because it's foamy and not clear. So he can't eat and can't drink and it's been over 2 hours since he got his allergy shot. I'm guessing we can rule out allergies. Not sure what else is left but I hope it's not bad and will go away quickly.

We have another visit with the vet at 3PM to verify how everything is going. I'm more panicked now then I was before. His mouth is alway open as if the inside is puffy or he simply can't breath from the nose. I'm just not used to him being sick, he's always healthy. Vet said if he's still drooling a lot she can give him a shot that will reduce the drool. I'm worried that will simply mask the problem.

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Old March 18th, 2008, 01:39 PM
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Am I over reacting? Nobody told me when I got a dog that I would go nuts when they're sick!
Nope you are just being a good doggie dad! You have recognized that your dog needs immediate vet attention.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 01:48 PM
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Did you take your dog to your regular vet or the emergency vet? What vet are you seeing at 3pm? It sounds like Bob has ingested something poisonous and she be staying at the vet until he is well enough to come home.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 04:16 PM
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Still no clue what it is. They don't think it's anything poisonous. The current theory is that something is stopping his tongue from touching the roof of his mouth thus blocking the swallow effect. They've just referred me to a tongue specialist (I didn't even know you had vet specialization) which we will go see in 1 hour. (that will be the 3rd vet I see today).

I spent two hours with the vet trying to feed him and get him to drink. He's really hungry and thirsty so he tries. One bowl of water gets him a few drops down the throat so I'm constantly refreshing the bowl for him. He did get some food down (maybe 1/3 of a cup) so he should be able to last. The original vet told me I could either wait till tomorrow and see if he gets better or go to the tongue specialist who will charge me a few hundred dollars just to see me. Of course I chose the specialist.

This vet did give him and anti drool shot, some concoction that supposedly reduces the saliva they create. Did nothing for him. Might have reduced the foaming by 10% but really far from stopping it. I'm tired, I've been running around the city seeing vets and not one of them has given me a proper answer. I know it's difficult when your patient doesn't speak but I'm nervous and I need to know he'll be ok.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 04:28 PM
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Oh dear...big for you bobsdad!!! Please let us know when you find out what's wrong.

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Old March 18th, 2008, 04:43 PM
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Wow...have you ever been through the grinder today. A tongue specialist? I must have been under a rock or something lately because I never would have thought.... Seriously though, this is a really unusual situation, and I hope you get some answers soon. Poor Bob.... I would worry about dehydration if he is having such a hard time getting water down. I'm sure the vets have considered that. Hopefully this won't last much longer.....sending
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Old March 19th, 2008, 08:35 AM
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Please check out this site I found from the Golden Retreiver Club of America. Apparantly Goldens can have a swallowing disorder that is hereditary, I would definately check this out. It also says that vets can be unaware of this, so the more information you have the better.

I truly hope that things work out for you and your boy...you are right, he doesn't deserve this, and neither do you. You are in a good place with supportive people who have gone through stuff like this. Keep us posted.

http://www.grca.org/health/swallowing.html
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Old March 19th, 2008, 08:50 AM
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You go ahead and cry, shows you are a caring human!!

I hope you can do something for you poor dog.

I am surprised your vet isn't keeping your dog hydrated with sub q's. Maybe dogs are different than cats . It is a normal procedure to do with sick cats that are not eating/drinking and for cats who are in renal failure.
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Old March 19th, 2008, 09:01 AM
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Please check out this site I found from the Golden Retreiver Club of America. Apparantly Goldens can have a swallowing disorder that is hereditary, I would definately check this out. It also says that vets can be unaware of this, so the more information you have the better.

I truly hope that things work out for you and your boy...you are right, he doesn't deserve this, and neither do you. You are in a good place with supportive people who have gone through stuff like this. Keep us posted.

http://www.grca.org/health/swallowing.html
I'll mention it to the vet but it doesn't seem like this is what Bob has. His jaw actually hangs down now. He can't even close his mouth because of this. Bob is vaccinated against Rabies but the more I read about Rabies the more the problems fit. I called the vet and she's telling me it's not likely to be Rabies. There is a stray cat that roams the neighborhood and enjoys tormenting bob, maybe she scratched him. There are two types of rabies, dumb and wild rabies. Of course if Bob gets rabies it would be dumb rabies. He's completely lethargic an just seems like he has no energy. Hoping it's not and there is no way to test for rabies while the dog is alive. I'm sure he doesn't have rabies but if he does then I'm even more scared for my wife. She's 3 months pregnant and I have no clue what the rabies treatment would do to a pregnant lady.

So now I've gone from being mortified for my dogs health to mortified for my dog and wife. Vet is assuring me it's not rabies but I just can't help thinking that cat might be a carrier. Bob was last vaccinated on April 2007. So if I want peace of mind on rabies I have to catch the stray cat and get my vet to euthanize it and check for rabies. I just can't do that on a far fetch theory. I can't just kill the cat to ease my worries. I'll ask the specialist as soon as I can what he thinks.

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*cough* .....my what an interesting story.
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Old March 19th, 2008, 01:20 PM
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Okay, bobsdad, you keep coming back to check the thread. Do you not have any updates?
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Old March 19th, 2008, 01:35 PM
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I keep coming back to this thread and reading it over and over again. Doesn't it sound similar to Lukka'sma's Lukka's condition? It's being treated with Prednisone?

Bobsdad, honestly, after all these vet visits, you're thinking rabies ? Seriously, the vet would be able to tell I'm sure. What you need to do is stop trying to diagnose your dog as it seems you're running around in circles. He hasn't been diagnosed yet and you're already thinking about saying goodbye ? C'mon, get real!

You mention it may be Dysphagia yet when Purpledomino gives you a link for info you then say it doesn't sound like it??

Have you actually gone to a vet yet?
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Old March 19th, 2008, 01:36 PM
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Okay, bobsdad, you keep coming back to check the thread. Do you not have any updates?
Wish I did...I just got back from 3 drugstores and couldn't find the thickner. I've read all the links and more 10 times already. I keep checking to see if anybody found another link for me to read that I haven't already found. Can't seem to concentrate on work today :sad:

Not sure if I should order the thickner online, it will take at least a week to get here and if it's autoimmune or curable viral then he'll be cured by then and if it's worse then he'll be in a better place by then. And there go the water works....sorry and thank you all for the support.

I think I'll head home and spend the rest of the day with bob
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