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Old October 20th, 2006, 05:12 PM
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Unhappy New food again?

Boo had had two cuts on his feets (back right and front left) that he wouldn't stop licking. Now finally, one healed and the other is almost gone. And then I catch him licking the front right. So I take a look and it's pretty red in the webbing and is pretty itchy. And Jemma's dandruff went away for about a week after I added the fish oil, and now it's back and all over her body.

I just can't win with this food stuff.:sad:
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Old October 20th, 2006, 05:19 PM
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Oh, no. Not again. Well. know you were considering the Canidae before-part of why I switched from Performatrin was a sudden dandruff problem (which has cleared up on the Canidae. I'm feeding the chickeny one, though, and you'd need the lamb one.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 05:20 PM
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Yeah. That and Timberwolf are the only ones left before I run out of options.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 05:33 PM
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Hope one of them works for you.

Hee hee, if Technodoll sees this, she'll point out how much easier it would be to feed RAW. That would be a pain with sensitivities and budget to manage.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 06:03 PM
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Hee hee, if Technodoll sees this, she'll point out how much easier it would be to feed RAW.
ha ha! well of course but... raw isn't a miracle cure-all, unfortunately... but yeah, it would probably fix all those niggly problems. prin, maybe someday when your have a freezer, the time and space and finances to go through with it... and don't mind handling raw meatsies... then you know i'll be here to help.

in the meantime, what if you added canned sardines & salmon to jemma's kibs... would that help with the dandruff?
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Old October 20th, 2006, 06:36 PM
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I'm not sure. I mean, I'm already giving high quality wild salmon oil. Maybe I'll up the amount. But Boo's feet mean he definitely has to get off one of them, and I'm inclined to think it's the DVP (their stools smell like the DVP), but I really don't want either of them on evo alone. It's just too scary.

I emailed TO again, more desperately this time, to see if they can help my doggies with their itchies. We'll see.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 06:59 PM
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for TO...

how about adding some pasta (egg noodles?) or rice or other home-cooked grain and maybe some canned green beans or something to the EVO to bulk up the food and reduce the overall amount of protein?... still nice calories, specially if you add olive oil or eggs?...
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:05 PM
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It's not the protein, it's the phosphorus I'm worried about. I'd have to research low phos foods.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:09 PM
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I just don't get why the chicken evo can have normal phosphorus and Orijen can too, but not Evo RM.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:10 PM
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this seems pretty complete... http://www.nutritiondata.com/foods-0...1000000-w.html

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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:11 PM
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ooo thanks!
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:12 PM
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go to tools / nutrient search tool and have fun
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:13 PM
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Wow, sorry to hear that Prin. I hope you get things sorted out
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:17 PM
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New food again

Unlike your dogs mine are doing very well on the DVP, granted I am feeding only DVP. I mix the venison with the fish formulas. Hunter is like a little puppy lately and so full of p.. and vinegar. Their coats are beautiful also. Their poops are a little bigger than they were on Solid Gold but hopefully that will work itself out.
What if you tried just feeding one brand of food for awhile?
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:20 PM
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The problem is, I'm not happy with either. I'm scared of the Evo RM and the dvp is way too low protein, IMO, plus the dogs aren't too thrilled with it.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:37 PM
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I'm still waiting for the miraculous 'hard-rabbit-type poo' I was promised with the EVO We're still in liquid massive poo-land.
I always thought the problem I had was with grain...but maybe it's a meat source that Buster can't digest...
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:41 PM
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How much are you feeding?
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:50 PM
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2 cups of EVO and 1/2 cup of Nutro Lamb/rice (i know it's not a great food, but I'm almost finished the bag...I'll be done in a few days, then I'll feed only EVO)
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:52 PM
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aha! must be the nutro!!
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:52 PM
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That's too much! (heh heh I watch too much price is right.)

Jemma is getting 1C Evo and 1C DVP and Boo is getting 1.5C DVP and 1C evo. (Boo is a slow 90lb doggy, and Jemma is a fast, hyper 60lb doggy, so I assume Buster is somewhere in between).

I'd say cut to 1.5 C evo and .5 Nutro till you finish the nutro, then 2C evo after that.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:54 PM
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i wish my boy ate as little as yours
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okay....If that doesn't work, maybe I'll just stop feeding him, no food = no poo, right?!
*disclaimer : to anyone reading this...it's a joke. I would never stop feeding my dog nor do I encourage others to stop feeding their dogs!!*
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:55 PM
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lol if he did, he'd be a husky instead of a bear.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 07:56 PM
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actually, Buster is an extra-hyper 58 pound boy....so he'd be more like Jemma. He's not a big boy, but he's got alot of energy!
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yah dem bears... they sure eat a lot

hey marie-eve, if it's any consolation... after every kibble meal, dakotah has stinky wet poops too... he won't eat the evo rm straight up so we mix it with the dry merricks, which he goes bananas over, but it doesn't agree with him... peeeeyuuuujesus!
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then I catch him licking the front right. So I take a look and it's pretty red in the webbing and is pretty itchy.
Has Boo been in any brush lately? We get irritations in the webbing all the time, but it's mechanical, not allergic, in nature. Running through grass can cause abrasions, too. Maybe it's not a food allergy?
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Prin, why don't you email Peter at Orijen (Champion Foods) and ask him if/when Orijen will be available in QC? You'll get an answer alot faster than with TO.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 09:04 PM
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The problem is, I'm not happy with either. I'm scared of the Evo RM and the dvp is way too low protein, IMO, plus the dogs aren't too thrilled with it.
I agree that it is lower protein. I am adding stuff so that my dogs get more. Until I can find a better food this is what I plan to do. My dogs love the DVP but there are very few foods that they have ever turned their noses up to. In fact now that I think of it they have never turned their noses up to anything.

By only giving them one brand of food for a few weeks you would be able to tell if that was the problem. I know it is not ideal but at least you could identify the cause of the itching, eventually.

The Evo scares me. I know many dogs do well on it but I have heard some scary stories and I am not willing to risk it as long as I can find other kibbles for them to eat that are half decent.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 09:41 PM
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Prin, why don't you email Peter at Orijen (Champion Foods) and ask him if/when Orijen will be available in QC? You'll get an answer alot faster than with TO.
The orijen has chicken in it.

I might end up having to work on Jems and Boobs separately. For Boo maybe the Go Natural salmon one might work, and for Jemma, who knows! It can't be grainy, but it can have chicken in it... Hey, she might be ok on the orijen... hmm...

If bleddy TO would ever get back to me... Things would be decided by now.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 09:44 PM
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Has Boo been in any brush lately? We get irritations in the webbing all the time, but it's mechanical, not allergic, in nature. Running through grass can cause abrasions, too. Maybe it's not a food allergy?
Oh, no, not really. Nothing too "off-road" lately. And it's weird because it's the top of the web, not the underside.
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