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Another fast eater/diarrhea stinky kitten thread
Hey all, you've been such wonderful help to me before, I know this is the place to get some good help.
I'm just not sure which advice to take... My new kitten is about 10-12 weeks old. I got him from a lady who had the mother and father and 4 kittens to give away. I believe they were indoor only cats but that might not be true. Since I've had him he has been a insane eater, cries like crazy when he's hungry and STINKS. Very gassy and lots of runny poo. I originally started feeding him about half and half Royal Canin Baby canned food (has grain in it) with Orijen 80/20/0 kibble (no grain, high quality protein, free run, wild caught, no preservatives...yada yada...) When I took him to the vet, the vet said to stop feeding him the wet food (yeah I know but maybe that was for the best as it has carbs in it). He was dewormed and given first shots. The vet didn't seem terribly concerned about his gulping of food and gassiness (I realize now that gulping can = farting). I told him that sometimes he eats so fast and poos so quickly afterwards that I've seen whole kibbles in his poo. He said, 'well he's been completely dewormed (he was given that new one through the skin on the back of his neck one shot deal thing, the name escapes me atm) and if this doesn't stop in a week or so, we may have to try something else (ominous words those) but some cats are just like that.' Riiiiight. I am not overly confident in what his 'something else might be' and I don't want to pay for unnecessary treatments and/or tests, really who does? Switching to dry only seemed to help, but now I attribute it to feeding him less, I was overfeeding him, d'oh! That was about 2 weeks ago. He is still insatiable, loses it when he hears my other cat eating, (I've had to break my no counters rule for her so she could actually get a chance to eat. Also have to lock him away when I feed Gracie my little dog.) I have tried freefeeding and restricting food limits both and it doesn't seem to make a difference. He seems otherwise healthy and active, does not drink excessively... just REALLY freakin' hungry. I poked around here a bit and saw that probiotics are recommended, wet food only obviously (although I do think the Orijens is a pretty good product personally) possibly some digestive enzymes... OR that he needs to go back to the vet for more testing. Actually he was never tested, the vet told me that this stuff they dewormed him with was new and kills everything. (True?) I even had a fecal sample with me but they didn't bother with that. They also said I did not have to come back in X number of days to get his stool checked because it WOULD work. This was entirely new to me, but he is a new younger vet with new ideas that took over the old place I went to. What to do first???? He is due for his next shots soon should I wait and bring a new sample then? Should I find a new vet? Should I be concerned that he might have something contagious to my other cat and dog? Should I try the probiotics or enzymes? Yogurt? If so can anyone recommend a place to buy these in Edmonton? Should I just switch to a higher end canned food such as Wellness? I'm kinda scared to do that for fear of the switch making it worse. Thank you for taking the time to read this very long post! His name is Monkey by the way... and he's adorable, of course. |
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Just wanted to clear up the fact that when I said I have tried food restriction I meant that I try to feed him really small amounts several times a day... not that I am trying to starve my kitten! LOL.
It doesn't work very well anyways and is a huge PITA to boot. |
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Hi chloe_close (and Monkey too),
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Really wish the vet hadn't vaccinated him, as vaccines should only be administered to HEALTHY cats. I would skip the boosters until his intestinal issues are under control. Quote:
Oh jeez. Those cats that "are just like that" are not healthy or normal, and are almost always on the wrong diet. His lack of insight into this issue is a bit concerning. Quote:
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I think we need some proof of this adorableness you speak of.
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He is eating 1/3 of a cup a day of Orijen. Potatoes!! DUHHHH. I guess the 0% means zero grains? I thought potatoes were not so bad???
He was eating Kitten Chow. (cue the eye rolling) It helped that originally when I cut him off the Royal Canin he had smaller, more normal poos but that stopped. I don't know why this occurred. OK will wait on the vaccines. I did not know that about them. Definitely DEFINITELY going to switch vets as well. Got a good one to recommend? I live in the Old Strathcona district. I think first I will go find him some better canned food today and try that (the Wellness one you mentioned). I'm not too concerned about whether or not he will eat it, he will eat ANYTHING and tries to. Which also makes me suspicious that he could be getting into something he shouldn't... plants maybe? Doesn't appear so but I would not put anything past him when it comes to eating. After that my next step may be to try the digestive enzyme thing. One step at a time... So you think he has been properly dewormed? How long should I expect the new food to take effect? Should I do it gradually or just straight on over? There IS a Tailblazers nearby, I had always found it to be astronomically expensive though, I will buy whatever I have to to get him healthy. I know that Wholesale Pet Supply used to be fairly reasonable but they went out of business. I have heard though that they are now back in business so maybe I will try there as well. Ask and you shall receive! First pic ever: The LOOK after getting caught playing with Baby Kitty's tail (aka. The Cat Formally Known As Abbey): And just so she doesn't feel left out, it's ruff bein' a doggie ya know? Gracie: ETA: Thank you!!! :blush: |
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Don't know too much about vets in Edmonton but there is a holistic clinic in that area that I've heard good things about. Here's the info: Dr. Steve Marsden, DVM, ND, MSOM, LAc, Dipl.CH Dr. Karen Marsden, DVM, CVA Edmonton Holistic Veterinary Clinic 8215 - 102 Street, Edmonton, Alberta T6E 4A5 Phone 780-436-4944 Fax 780-438-0465 Small animal, certain exotics, human Holistic Practices: Chiropractic, acupuncture, homeopathy, Chinese and Western herbs. Quote:
And OH MY GOD, what a cutie-pie Monkey is. As are Gracie and Baby Kitty.
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Well after much searching and hemming and hawing I came home with a 12 pack of Wellness Kitten Formula. I hope that's okay...
I could not find the new line that you referred to. I also saw the Before Grain line of foods but I've never heard of them before and to be honest the 'President's Choice-y' look of the packaging scared me off of it. LOL. Now that I'm at home on the computer it appears that it might have been a better choice. (?) They don't have a kitten version of that though (does that matter?) so I went with the Wellness. I decided to go with a straight up switch to the new food. I figured that his tummy is already messed up and if the food is the likely cause of it then I'm doing him no favours by making him eat it any longer than necessary. I really hope that was the right action to take. I wasn't sure how much to feed him either. It says for a 20 week or less kitten to feed as much as they can eat 3-4 times a day. LOLOL! I'm pretty sure he would eat until he exploded. I gave him about a third of a 3oz. can and smeared it around. ??? The 21-30 weeks guideline says feed 2/3 of a can per pound of body weight. Except that I have no idea how much he weighs. I would imagine he is underweight for his age but he is not really skinny or anything. I don't even have a scale in the house of any type so that's no help. (Pleasepleaseplease let those be the right decisions!) It actually took him longer than 30 seconds to eat it!! WOW. And he didn't run to the litter box immediately after either. And mannnnn... is that dish ever cleannnnn... I guess we will just wait and see what happens next... I have seen that holistic vet (thank you for the rec) it is quite close to me, however I've not ever been to a holistic vet and have no idea what to expect. Glad you enjoyed the pics, they are after all the least I can do for all the help you've given me, thank you so much!! Sorry to be such a pain with all the questions! FYI Edmonton and Area People: Trident Wholesale Pet Supply is going to stop carrying Wellness and everything they have is on clearance prices. I only talked to them on the phone and they seem to have a limited selection but it might be worth checking out. |
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Not at all! I hope Monkey gets over his poopin problem.
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