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Old March 20th, 2008, 03:33 PM
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Bob,that's great news,I know he still has a problem,but at least it's not deadly and can be cured,just like Lukka.
Yes please try to get a pic on here for us
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Old March 21st, 2008, 12:10 PM
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Ok so here are some pictures

Baby Bob vs Toy Bone



Adolescent Bob introduces us to "Cheap whore pose"



Adolescent Bob Hugs Dad



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Old March 21st, 2008, 12:23 PM
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I'll post some more pictures later on. My wife is convinced Bobs jaw is moving more then yesterday but it seems the same to me. He's definitely in better spirits. Also my hands seem to be getting used to the cold of the ice chips every 2 hours. Still not getting used to the drool though...I swear he's loving this. I have to feed him by hand and move his jaw up and down and all sir lazy has to do is swallow. Bob has always been lazy but he's taking it to knew heights

I'm convinced that even if he's getting better he'll fake it for a while to milk the situation. Little rascal
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Old March 21st, 2008, 12:26 PM
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those pictures are absolutely adorable what a beautiful guy cant wait to see more pics
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Old March 21st, 2008, 12:39 PM
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Don't you love the I didn't do it picture...it's like he's saying "I didn't do it I promise...maybe mommy ate your shoes...she's a weirdo you know"

He's too cute and soooo lazy
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Old March 21st, 2008, 03:40 PM
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Aww Bob.he was a sweetheart as a baby and I am sure he still is
I believe him,I think your wife chewed the shoes
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Old March 21st, 2008, 03:49 PM
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Awwwww..... Bob is one handsome little guy.

I love the "I didn't do it" pic. I've seen that look many times before. And, the "Bob hugs Dad" pic is too cute.

Hope to see lots more pics of Bob in the Photo Forum here.

Glad Bob seems in better spirits and good luck with the neurologist on Wednesday.
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Old March 21st, 2008, 06:10 PM
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thanks for the pics!

that bob sure is a cutie pa-tootie!!!

here's hoping he's on the road to recovery. his spirits improving sounds like a good sign to me.

take care, and keep us informed. all the best!

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Old March 21st, 2008, 06:35 PM
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Bobdad! OMG what a sweet heart!! Just wanted to send you and your family some good vibes! Hoping your next appointment shows some improvement....So heartbreaking when they are sick!

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Old March 21st, 2008, 10:31 PM
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Awwww, he truly is sooooo cute! Sorry Dad, I meant Bob!!!

Seriously though, what a beauty is he and I so hope that he will soon be on the road to a completely recovery.

Thanks for sharing the photos!!

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AWWWW.........cute! No wonder you are in love with this guy, he is adorable! I also think your wife chewed the shoes.... there is no way this little sweetie could have done something like that!

Thanks for posting those.
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He sure was a cute little pup! Look at those innocent eyes!

Glad to hear he's maybe showing improvement! I hope the meds work for him quickly!

Can't wait to see more Bob pictures.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 07:24 AM
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He is such a sweetie, and of course he didn't chew the shoe, with those eyes, I'd believe anything
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 08:23 AM
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any updates?

hi bobsdad.

just wondering how bob is feeling these past few days. any news for us? any improvement with his jaw?

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Old March 23rd, 2008, 06:46 PM
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Just seeing this thread for the first time.
Ever since Lukka came down with Masticatory Myositis the first thing I think of when I hear excessive drooling is an auto immune disease. Makes me very nervous to read about dogs and drool Lukka is now in remission and I hope your dog will have the same speedy results that Lukka had with the Pred therapy It took about a week for her mouth to open properly and another few days after that before she could give me a full open mouth yawn.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 08:08 PM
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Well I wish I had good news of a speedy recovery but it's not the case. His paralysis is progressing. What he has is called Myasthenia Gravis and it's officially progressed to his left eye muscle. It's sad to see but half his face is drooping now. We can still feed him by hand and we still hydrate him with crushed ice.

There is a lot more documentation on the disease for humans and they say 75% of the cases have abnormality of thymus and 25% have a tumor of the thymus. I'm shocked to learn that there is a rather simple blood test that can check for antibodies against acetylcholine receptors which they haven't done yet. Also don't understand why they gave autoimmune pills before giving anticholinesterases pills. The good news is that 89% of the dogs affected by this went into remission an average of 6.4 months after diagnosis. Bad news is all those that didn't go into remission got cancer within 3 years.

I'm basically researching the disease now and getting a list of questions to ask the neurologist on Wednesday. All in all I can't say I'm feeling all that positive today
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 08:19 PM
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I'm so sorry to hear this diagnosis.
My heart goes out to you, your family and your wonderful pooch. I will be keeping my fingers crossed for bob. Lukka and I are sending the most positive vibes we can manage for bob to get through this
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Old March 24th, 2008, 01:38 AM
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Oh no, bobsdad, I was hoping with the autoimmune pills he would be getting better, not worse. Hopefully, the neurologist will be able to give you better news and some meds to help him fight this disease.
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Old March 24th, 2008, 06:24 AM
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Awww, I'm so sorry to hear this news. Just remember that YOU are a GOOD DAD and with you, Bob has the BEST chance of recovering.

My thoughts are with you.
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Old March 24th, 2008, 06:48 AM
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stay strong

hi bobsdad.

soooooooo sorry to hear of this diagnosis. i know it's hard, but you have to try to stay strong for bob. it's not all bad news, though, right? there is hope that bob can return to normal, as i understand it. let's all just pray that bob is among those who go into remission. with someone like you by his side seeing he gets everything he needs, he has the best possible chance for beating this thing. hang in there, buddy. you have lots of friends pulling for you on this board . please keep us informed. let us know what the neurologist has to say, okay?

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Old March 25th, 2008, 08:28 PM
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Just a quick update.

Went to the vet today to see if Bob needs a neurologist consult or not. He's got Honer's Syndrom on the left eye. Pretty nasty since his eyeball is retracting inwards but not dangerous since it will heal by itself. Bobs jaw is definitely improving, enough so that the vet feels confident that he doesn't need a neurologist. Since we brought him to the animal hospital with different specialists we've had about 8 different vets consult on the case. They're all certain that they see no tumors and that this is indeed an autoimmune disease.

I'll keep you all posted on Bobs progress. The vet thinks he should be able to drink by himself in 10 days . For now we're glad to help him drink and eat, I mean I already pick up his crap!

You know what makes me sad, thinking about all those other animals whose families could not allocate the funds we've allocated to take care of there pets. They don't love them any less, but if you have to chose between feeding your pet or your child then it's an easy choice. Other then the SPCA what is a family in that situation supposed to do? We've already spent $1500 in 2 weeks but our financial situation permits us too, what do you do if you can't? I'm tormented by that thought constantly, what about all those other Bobs out there?

Ok Bob wants to go to sleep now...so grouchy if he doesn't get his 20 hours of sleep
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You know what makes me sad, thinking about all those other animals whose families could not allocate the funds we've allocated to take care of there pets.
You have a good heart Bobsdad. I think about this all the time.
Then there is a whole other group who, even if the money was burning a hole in their pocket, wouldn't spend it.

I'm so glad Bob is better and things are looking up. Thank dog for expert advice when we need it.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 06:30 AM
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yay!

hi bobsdad.

i've been checking frequently to see if there was an update on bob, and lo and behold - there it was!

i'm very happy for you and your little buddy. it's always nice to hear something positive. poor little bob has been thru the wringer, eh?

i know what you mean about finances. my hubby and i also are in a position to take care of our animals' needs (we have three cats), but there are plenty of people out there who just don't have the money. some people like to criticize them and say they shouldn't have pets then, but at least they are able to give the animals food, shelter and lots of love. there are plenty of animals out there that don't even have that. if only people who can truly afford vet care are allowed to own pets, the world would be overrun by wild cats and dogs, trust me, as vet fees these days are steeeeeep. (speaking of criticizing those who can't afford it, in one post i read, the person claimed her animals get vet care before she eats, responding to a poster who stated she couldn't afford suggested treatment for her pet - that's a bit extreme, isn't it? where will her animals be if she starves to death? people shouldn't be so quick to judge other peoples' situations).

anyway, take care of you and bob and drop by now and then to let us know how he is doing. here's hoping he's on the speedy road to recovery!

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I know what you mean about finances. I am unfortunately one of those people who would not be able to afford a 1500$ vet bill in a week, although I would do my damnedest to try. I don't think I would go without food, but my bills would definitely get bumped back a month.
Both my cats were rescued as kittens from irresponsible owners, and I wouldn't hesitate to rescue a third, or even a dog, in the same situation. I care for my animals very deeply, and even though I don't have a lot of money, I'm still able to provide their basic needs, including S/N.
Bobsdad, he's very lucky to have you.
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Old March 26th, 2008, 09:07 AM
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Hey bobsdad: thanks for the update. I'm so glad to hear this news. My heart goes out to you, bob and your family for all you've been through these past couple of weeks.

I too think of bob constantly and even my own husband asks me every night when he arrives home from work: "Any news on bob?"

Bob is very fortunate to have YOU as his family!!!
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I know what you mean about finances. I am unfortunately one of those people who would not be able to afford a 1500$ vet bill in a week, although I would do my damnedest to try. I don't think I would go without food, but my bills would definitely get bumped back a month.
Both my cats were rescued as kittens from irresponsible owners, and I wouldn't hesitate to rescue a third, or even a dog, in the same situation. I care for my animals very deeply, and even though I don't have a lot of money, I'm still able to provide their basic needs, including S/N.
Bobsdad, he's very lucky to have you.

God bless you and if everybody was more like you the world would be a better place. 'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. Your pets are lucky to have an owner who cares that much about them.
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ditto!

i second that, bobsdad. bless you, danaekitty, for rescuing those babies. love is worth so much more than money, believe me! and like badger said, some people who have tons of money wouldn't spend a cent on their pets. so, who is the better caregiver? you tell me!

blessings to all those who love their pets!
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hi bobsdad.

some people like to criticize them and say they shouldn't have pets then, but at least they are able to give the animals food, shelter and lots of love. there are plenty of animals out there that don't even have that. if only people who can truly afford vet care are allowed to own pets, the world would be overrun by wild cats and dogs, trust me, as vet fees these days are steeeeeep. (speaking of criticizing those who can't afford it, in one post i read, the person claimed her animals get vet care before she eats, responding to a poster who stated she couldn't afford suggested treatment for her pet - that's a bit extreme, isn't it? where will her animals be if she starves to death? people shouldn't be so quick to judge other peoples' situations).
I agree with what you are saying, if nobody adopted a pet for fear there may be vet bills, then there would be so many pets euthanised. I do believe that a person needs to be able to afford the basic vet care, spaying/checkups/minor illnesses.

Bobsdad, you are being a great dad, and your dog is so lucky to have you.

I hope he gets better soon.
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Old March 27th, 2008, 06:39 AM
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I do believe that a person needs to be able to afford the basic vet care, spaying/checkups/minor illnesses.
absolutely, love4himies! the basics have to be there - especially spaying. i was referring more to serious illnesses where a person just might not have a choice because their resources are limited.

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Old April 1st, 2008, 02:52 PM
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Just wanted to give you guys an update on bobs status

First and foremost Bob is MUCH better. He has about 80% use of his jaw, he can open and close it but can't produce to much bite power. Makes eating crunchy treats hard but easily solved with equally yummy and much softer bananas. His honer syndrome has stopped progressing and might even be showing some remission. Although we still expect it to take about 2-3 months for the eyeball to come back in place.

The bad news, because this poor guy just keeps on getting more and more bad news, is that he has an infection in the right nostril. The infection occurred most likely because of regurgitated food that made it into his nostril and caused a nasty infection. He's on anti-biotic drops for that and should be able to kick it in 10 days.

We expect Bob to be back to HEALTHY status in about a month (). Till then we have weekly visits at the vet for status checks. I'll let you guys know when he's out of the woods or if something new develops.

So one of the things I learned about autoimmune diseases on dogs is that there are some tells to them. First and foremost is the eyes. Anything that attacks the sympathetic nervous system will somehow be visible in the eyes. Something that if I would have known at the beginning might have saved Bob 2-3 months of misery. Either the 3rd eyelid will start moving up or the skin around the eyes will droop or as in our case his eyeball will turn inwards. Either way there are some simple tests you could do to see. One of them is just tapping underneath the eye and seeing if he can close them. You can also look at the pupil and see if both sides are dilated the same. Shine light in his eye and see if the pupil dilates. Of course always take your dog to the vet, problem is that not all vets are pros in autoimmune diseases. My normal vet had never seen one in 30 years and my specialist has seen a few honers and other autoimmunes but only once before did he see what bob had.

Bob of course had a disease that attacked the sympathetic and also a specific protein that affected the trigeminal nerve. Good way to discover if your dog is mortally at risk is to stick your hand down his throat and see if he can swallow. Not being able to swallow is a big one and probably means an enlarged esophagus. They tend to rate these types of diseases on a scale of 4. Facial paralysis would be a 1, eyeballs would be 2, eyeballs and other muscles would be 3 and breathing/swallowing/blinking/walking would be a 4. Bob had a 3, thank GOD, because a 4 would be very bad.

We were lucky and fell on the perfect vet that new exactly what to do but before we fell on him we went through 3 vets that had no clue. I hope it never repeats but if it does I will definitely know what to look for. Don't use this as a guide but more as a learned experience by a fellow pet daddy.


Oh yes...and just because some of the symptoms fit Rabies, he most likely doesn't have Rabies
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