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Old July 4th, 2005, 04:42 PM
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why cant the dog be socialised on leash??


my dog sam has never been anyplace off leash, and likely never will be, not because hes untrustworthy, but because I dont trust other dogs.


hes just a bichon/poodle cross.

sometimes its just good sence not to tempt fate.

please reconsider the off leash parks,

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Old July 4th, 2005, 07:05 PM
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Duh,,, LOL I couldn't for the life of me figure tht out LOL I really do have pit bulls on the brain lately hahah! Its funny though with the american bull dogs, some really look like pit bulls and others dont. I think alot has to do with the colouring. Do you think that Angel Eyes dog is a cross? Max, he looks like that to me. I love the expression on the lasts guy or gals face!
It's ok,we all have out moments...LOL.

With Max,I do see American Staff.It is definately hard to tell cause of him being all white.

See with a well bred American Bulldog from a reputable breed,they should not look any different from one to another.They should all look the same from one reputable breeder to another.
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Old July 4th, 2005, 11:33 PM
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There is no way to tell if your dog is AST or APBT(American Staffordshire Terrier/American Pit Bull Terrier) They ALL look the same generally, and many are dual registered. There is no way to tell the difference unless you had papers to say different.

As far as American Bulldogs, well, there are 2 different lines, that look VERY different, so who knows what your dog is! Looks to me APBT, but larger than standard, typical with the BYB.
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Old July 4th, 2005, 11:48 PM
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Here is an example of the Johnson(type) lines





Here is an example of the performance(type) lines

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Old July 5th, 2005, 02:28 PM
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why cant the dog be socialised on leash??
This is one of the worst ways to socialize a dog with other dogs because they feel constricted and will have a higher chance of being fearful. That is not an option, I have taken advice regarding offleash dogs parks... I am no longer going, not because my dog is untrustworthy either but because other people bring unsocialized dogs which is out of my control so I will be running Max early and late in the regular parks with his cousins.


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my dog sam has never been anyplace off leash, and likely never will be, not because hes untrustworthy, but because I dont trust other dogs.
I agree, Maximus is very trustworthy as for listening off leash- however I do not trust other people and how they raise their dogs.

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hes just a bichon/poodle cross.
as opposed to a pit bull breed? lol. I had a poodle my whole life- they are great dogs she was the sweetest little girl, funny thing is that everyone finds Max to actually be more friendly with people and dogs, what irony!

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Old July 5th, 2005, 02:33 PM
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There is no way to tell if your dog is AST or APBT(American Staffordshire Terrier/American Pit Bull Terrier) They ALL look the same generally, and many are dual registered. There is no way to tell the difference unless you had papers to say different.

As far as American Bulldogs, well, there are 2 different lines, that look VERY different, so who knows what your dog is! Looks to me APBT, but larger than standard, typical with the BYB.
I actually didn't have a question about the AST or APBT, I know his mom is APBT. As for the American Bulldogs, I know what you mean... you are right about the lines!
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Old July 5th, 2005, 02:36 PM
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My first dog was a pit and he was not dog aggressive and yes I took him to the off leash parks BUT I had him muzzled and he was VERY well trained. If you want to keep going go, but muzzle your dog. I would also be sure his training is up to snuff. You are right here are lots of irresponsible dog owners and other dogs who are unpredictable, protect yourself and dog if you are going to go. He is also coming of age, so the aggression could still show up. I would also not adopt another dog until he's about 3-4 so you know what you are getting into.
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Old July 5th, 2005, 02:50 PM
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My first dog was a pit and he was not dog aggressive and yes I took him to the off leash parks BUT I had him muzzled and he was VERY well trained. If you want to keep going go, but muzzle your dog. I would also be sure his training is up to snuff. You are right here are lots of irresponsible dog owners and other dogs who are unpredictable, protect yourself and dog if you are going to go. He is also coming of age, so the aggression could still show up. I would also not adopt another dog until he's about 3-4 so you know what you are getting into.

Thank you. I agree. I actually spoke to my boyfriend regarding this. You never know, all of the love and socialization in the world could not prevent all possible negative outcomes, and I want to be safe. I will be waiting until he is older and I have a bigger house before considering getting another pup.

As for the dog parks, Maximus is great and very obedient, however... I will be taking him to the regular park at off hours for exercise. As for dog parks, my sister had a issue the other day with her dogs, due to someones out of control lab and very ignorant owner whose response was "Let your dog bite my dog if my (intact) dog keeps humping her, then we will deal with it". Too many irresponsible owners, it's not worth dealing with these people, I want my dog to be safe. And we all know if something was to happen it would be blamed on his breed... I'm not willing to take that chance. Thank you for your response, I agree with you!
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Old July 5th, 2005, 03:40 PM
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Thank you Angeleyes for not taking your dog to the dog park anymore!

My dog is not aggressive either, but I cannot tell you how many incidents we have had with other people's off leash, untrained and aggressive dogs - everything from a little mix running out in the road to try and hump her while his owner laughed about it, to two off leash boxers attacking her, to a Lab following us out to the middle of the road, to an Malamute who wants to kill her for no reason. And those are only a few incidents.

If my dog turned and retaliated to any of these dogs, you know who would be blamed and what the headlines would say "PIT BULL ATTACKS FAMILY PET!!" and you would have people yelling for BSL.

It stinks, it's not fair, but it's a fact of life when you own this breed.

Most adult pit bulls don't much like other dogs anyway, so depriving them of the company of other dogs is no hardship for them. They MUCH prefer the company of people, at least mine sure does.
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Old July 5th, 2005, 03:51 PM
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Thanks LR. I know he's still a puppy but Maximus goes crazy for his cousins. I just have to say their names and he starts crying and howling! Probably because he knows them so well. I'm sure that he prefers our company over other dogs, I hope he stays as sweet to other dogs- however I must be prepared that he won't always be as easy going with them.

Do you think he will ever stop loving his cousins? I can't see it happening, but you never know. He is totally obsessed with them, my sister and brother-in-law. A soft "where's Milo?" will have him running about looking for them!

However, I've experienced many issues in dog parks, issues I might have brushed over thinking they were just rare encounters. When in fact it's probably the crowd that gets drawn to these dog parks. I've never had a problem with "the regulars" however the sporatic dog park goers are the issue and I don't want my dog to suffer because I looked over this.

It will be a regular park romp on off hours with me, my bofriend and/or his cousins. Not because of him, and I know you know this- but because it's better to be safe.
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