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Illinois holds hearing on tial docking, ear cropping restrictions
This is a really good article. It's interesting to see that the AKC is trying to get this bill opposed. Why do they oppose it?
The AKC said it “recognizes that ear cropping, tail docking and dewclaw removal, as described in certain breed standards, are acceptable practices integral to defining and preserving breed character and/or enhancing good health. Appropriate veterinary care should be provided.” While I get that some breeds have a certain look, I don't feel putting an animal through an unnecessary surgery is justified. A Doberman pinscher would look just as beautiful with floppy ears and a tail. Here's the entire article: Illinois Holds Hearing on Tail Docking, Ear Cropping Restrictions The Illinois Senate Agriculture & Conservation Committee held a hearing on March 10 concerning SB 139, which limits the practices of tail docking and ear cropping in the state. Results of the hearing were not available at press time. The bill amends the Humane Care for Animals Act and considers ear cropping and tail docking “animal torture” unless the procedures are performed by an Illinois licensed veterinarian for a medical reason. Torture, as defined in the bill, means the infliction of or subjection to extreme physical pain, motivated by an intent to increase or prolong the pain, suffering or agony of the animal. A person convicted of violation would be guilty of a Class 3 felony. The American Kennel Club posted a news alert March 10 encouraging dog owners and breeders to contact their state legislators to oppose the measure. The AKC said it “recognizes that ear cropping, tail docking and dewclaw removal, as described in certain breed standards, are acceptable practices integral to defining and preserving breed character and/or enhancing good health. Appropriate veterinary care should be provided.”
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Exactly. These breed standards are man made. Nature doesn't make a doberman look the way it does, and other animals who go through these procedures. These are things humans create and saying it's a breed standard suddenly makes it okay?
I don't think it's right either. I mean it's the same as saying, the human breed standard for women should be tall, slim, big bust, small waist.
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Good point AG. I will never ever go to a breeder....EVER! With stupidity such as this it goes to show that they think that they are talking to dumbies. |
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My friend, if this were the standard for women then I'd have to form my own country, because I could not conform to that standard.
What gets me is, if you are a breeder, you should want to protect your animals from harm. This is harmful to them. It's man playing with nature. There are enough problems with some breeds, health wise because of the way they are bred, so why cause more harm unnecessarily just for the sake of looks?
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I wonder about the dewclaws, though. Dewclaw removal can be integral to health because the darn things snag on brush and can actually be broken and/or ripped off. It makes sense to remove them before that happens because it can be very painful for a dog, especially if the injury occurs miles from the nearest vet. However, before the dog is feeling the agony of a broken dewclaw, it likely won't qualify as a 'medical reason'.
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Hazel, I've read that about the dewclaws. But that to me seems more acceptable, because if it's something that snag and get torn off, while they are playing or doing something, I imagine it would be better to get rid of it before it causes a problem to them. If it gets torn away they will be in pain, and if you don't see it for some reason, that could cause an infection. My issue is with the whole aesthetic thing. Like the ears need to be cropped and tail docked because the animal doesn't "look" right otherwise. That's the way I see it.
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Although i do agree with dewclaw removal at a young age.
I dont know how i feel about the docking of tails is SOME breeds. Take the yorkie for instance. I cant imagine keely with a Full legth tail. Because of sanitation issues.. To much fecal matter can get stuck with a full lentgh tail, and can be hidden by the tail.. Which could cause problems.. Also, The docking of tails Is a practice used in some working breeds for protection of the tail, Like the boar hunting breeds. They have docked tails so the pig thing cant pull them by the tail and use it to their advantage. Or soemthing, I watched a documentary for the reasoning for docking the tails of working dogs) And yorkie tails were originally docked for a similar reason. And I have been informed that docking is done before the age of three days because the puppies nerves arent fully develpoped in that part of it and they hardly feel anything (Or something like that, wasnt paying much attention..lol ) I mean, If u watch a video of a puppies tail being docked, it doesnt cry anymore then it already was before getting its tail docked. Ear cropping, Again sometimes that is done in working breeds like the wild boar hunters, as the ear could be ripped off or they could be dragged to the ground.. Ears and tails are sensitive, if another animal that its hunting gets ahold of either of it, the dog will most likey surrender.. Plus it would be alot more painful to have a body part ripped off by the apponent.. Not That i Agree with doing it just for looks. Or with it at all, just trying to look at both sides..
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I dont like that it is done just for looks tho..
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My - from what I know about docked ears and tails, it is done for estetic purposes only. It does not add any special traits of character to the dog, nor does it remove anything. It is done by humans, for human estetic pleasure. And my personal opinion is that all creatures are created the way nature intended them to be, cats have naturally "docked" ears, dogs don't..Wolves do, dogs don't...I guess that is my point.
As far as the dew claw goes - I guess I agree with Hazel, if it is a concern - it better be removed in advance. |
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I agree with Hazel 100% about the dewclaws... Personally I can't remember the last time we had wild boars running around down town toronto causing a need to have my dogs tails cropped, but you never know...As for docking the tail because of poopie butt, i have a large long haired golden who has mastered pooing without the use of toilet paper.
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When these breeds were developed there certainly was a reason to dock tails or crop ears. It is part of the history of the breed in question - much like circumsizing a male child.
Personally - I have found that, almost without exception, the dog breeds that I prefer all have docked tails. I have absolutely NO problem with tails being docked or ears being cropped so long as it is done by a professional. Seems to me that with the economy going the way it is and the number of puppy mills cropping up in the state of Illinios - they have considerably more to be worried about then whether a couple of breeds of dogs have docked tails or cropped ears.
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While my personal opinion on the crop/dock issue is still undecided. I have taken consideration to both sides of the spectrum and I am conflicted. I do like the look it provides to many dogs but at the same time I know for the most part is not no longer relevant to their current purpose. I personally would not get the procedure done to a dog but I would not reject one who had procedures done before my care. |
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All good points here. There are many breeds I like that have docked tails, however were I ever to adopt a dog, one that normally would have its tail docked, yet it does not, I would not do this to him/her.
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Interesting.
I have met several dogs that suffer from spay incontinence but never met a docked dog that suffered from hyperalgesia. I don't hear anyone saying that spaying is a bad thing because of this long term affect. As for proof of a puppies pain during docking being "intense shreiking vocalizations" - it is exactly the same noise a puppy makes if you take it away from a nipple when it is nursing. Sorry - but I look at what is going on in the U.S. involving the economy, unemployment, foreclosures and such and I can't help but wonder why suddenly tail docking and ear cropping even shows up on the State Government's radar. Don't they have more important things to deal with right now?
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Im not a fan of any kinda altering that doesnt serve a purpose in todays world. That being said, I adopted my kitty from the SPCA and he was declawed BEFORE I got him and that was a wonderful thing...I would never do it myself but I can see why people would. Dogs dewclaws - Im for removeing it, Ive seen them ripped off and bleed and get infected, not an easy part of the dogs body to heal.
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