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tacogirl it is easy to say you don't have to hide it but that is a very naive attitude. my daughter who is now only 25 has friends who were afraid to tell their parents because they didnt want to lose family and be kicked out of the house. there is still plenty of prejudice out there
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Tacogirl, I see where you are coming from. I know you are not out to bash anyone.
For people that are already gay positive, there are other very important issues that affect our lives and our country. For some gay people, it does seem to be the main topic of their conversations (NOT talking about anyone in this thread). That's cool, being gay is a huge part of who they are. That said...like anyone that only talks about 1 thing, it gets old even if it IS an important topic. Did I put my foot in my mouth?
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Aslan and Bendyfoot: I can't imagine the pain you have to live through just because of your sexual orientation, I am sorry Every time I hear of Matthew Sheppard, I cry, it is just so upsetting that humans have done this to another human .
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nope i don't see bashing either. just hopefully educating some people whether posting in the thread or just lurking. I guess its harder to understand something if you don't have to live it everyday.
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its 2010,why is this even an issue?is this not a pet site,a place where we ALL have a common interest?......aslan your gay?i never knew
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not to thread jack but we are jewish and her bf family is from india originally so we know what prejudice is. the younger goes to school in windsor and always hears you dont look jewish. i always reminded them everyone is equal when they were growing up. heads would have rolled if i heard hurtful remarks about others from their mouths, but that is not the case in many homes.
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Love4 this is a song performed by melissa ethridge about mathew sheppard. www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQmDlQO61pk |
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Wowzer...terrific thread all!
As for "sexual preference"...yes, I do...prefer it that is As for "sexual orientation"... the only time I'm interested in what you do with what is between your legs is if I am interested in what is between your legs. |
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You know the funny thing, L4? Any hurt I've ever experienced has NOT been because of my sexual orientation...it's been because of peoples' response to it. I'm perfectly happy being gay. For ME, it's a non-issue. It's just one small part of who/what I am. The issue lies with other people, plain and simple. If the rest of the world was more accepting, there would be no "closet", no young people killing themselves, no awkward coming out to parents...none of it. We would all just be. (Wouldn't that be nice?)
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Well said, well put!
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Wow, great thread, I've read thru it twice.
I have many gay/lesbian friends, infact one of my best friends is a lesbian. I also have many hetero friends, some who are totally accepting of gays/lesbians, and some who unfortunately are not. I don't normally categorize my friends based on sexuality, my friends are my friends and I love them all. My own mother was bisexual. I didn't find out until I was 12 or 13 that she was, and I remember how fearful she was in anticipation of my reaction. I disliked my mother for many reasons, however, I didn't dislike her because of her sexuality. I wasn't surprised to learn she was bisexual, after two seriously abusive marriages, where she was almost killed, she took refuge in the arms of a woman, and she was never happier nor did she ever feel so safe. Martha and my mother had a relationship that spanned a course of 5+ years, and I'm sure had my mother not started drinking again, their relationship would've lasted even longer. I loved Martha, she made my mother happy and that was all that mattered. Someone brought up Pride Parades, some of my gay/lesbian friends, don't approve of them either, some do. The one's that don't, feel the parades do nothing but to marginalize their community even more. They also feel they are hypocritical, because if there were to be a Hetero Pride Parade, they are convinced that there would be an uproar in the gay community, accussing it of being bigoted and such. Maybe their right, maybe their not. My gay/lesbian friends that do like the parades, and have contributed and participated in them. For them it's the one time a year they can truly be themselves, let their hair down so to speak and have fun. My personal opinion of the parades, I don't think they are neccesary, but I certainly wouldn't deny the right to host such an event. I've been to a couple to support my friends who were participating, for the most part it was enjoyable, unfortunately, there were also parts that weren't appropriate for children, and since I had my children with me I was a tad annoyed. Now before getting angry with me for that comment, just let me say, that if I seen two Hetero ppl doing the same thing in a public venue, I would be equally annoyed. I have no issue with showing affection in public, holding hands, a brief kiss, a loving embrace, but for people in general, there is a line that shouldn't be crossed. I have faced descrimination over the past 20 years, for being married to an unorthodox Jew. A relative of ours recently had a racial bigotry spray painted on her garage door and fence. It's a human condition, and if I were a betting person, I'd wage that altho things have and will change, there will always be descrimination, hate, bigotry and fear. It's unfortunate that we can't embrace our differences, it's unfortunate that some people refuse to accept others simply because it conflicts with their religious upbringing. It's most unfortunate, that some people have to inflict their children with their own insecurities and bigotry, therefore keeping descrimination and hate alive. That's just my 2cents...... btw....when I found out I pregnant when I was 17, my mother threw me out in the street, no support, no nothing, gotta say that was probably the worst day of my life.
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My daughter works with a young gay man, he was kicked out of the house by his parents when he told them he was gay . I can't imagine parents having such conditional love for their children . He is the sweetest young man.
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well said LMPG,,,, yup there are things that happen durring the parade that are just uncalled for, such as public nudity. I also don't think it's neccessary to grope each other in public, jeez get a room..
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sadly i don't have to imagine it, i lived it..you've met me, do you get the impression i care what people think of me. Either you like me or you don't not going to be something i'm not for anyone.
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Sorry for the sadness in your thread LMPG
As far as overly sexual displays in public parades are concerned, I agree, NOT appropriate at all. I can easily see how it happens in a festive parade....but inappropriate.
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aslan....I haven't met you, and I get the impression you don't care what people think, and that you are not going to be something you aren't for anyone. Nothin' wrong with that, I'm the same way.
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lol, not from lack of trying on my part FG was just working me sooo hard..this is why we get along mf.
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If you are ever out this way again, I would love to take you out for dinner or something, ya can come over and meet the pitties and the rotti, meet the hubby and the brats.
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well last i heard i'm supposed to be there in sept to gut FG's bathroom so i would be there longer, and i would loooove to meet your puppers and family,,i was trying to meet up with SCM while i was there, nope didn't happen. i did get to see FG's bare bum tho.
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That being said, my oldest brother is gay and I have nothing to do with him. Before you get all excited here, my decision to not have a relationship with him has nothing to do with his sexual preference. He is an alcoholic who treated my mother like crap, he is a self-centered, arrogant, condescending, full-blown a$$hole. He also sexually abused me when I was five years old and has the nerve to say that my memory of that was "planted" there by my counselor. Get over yourself. Just thinking of him makes my stomach hurt. He will announce to anyone he meets, literally within the first few minutes, that he is gay. Who the hell cares? He has actually gone into job interviews and when they ask if there is anything else they need to know about him, he offers them this information. Again, who cares? I have had several gay friends in my life and have loved all of them dearly. I don't care what their sexual preference is (just as I don't care about their color/heritage/religion/political affiliation), I care about how they treat me and their general attitude in life. I have had friends who I "suspected" were gay but it never was a big deal to me. They always "come out" to me and the only reason I can think of is that people can feel (or just know somehow) whether someone else will accept them as they are. I also firmly believe that people are born with a determined sexual preference. As was said earlier, why in the world would anyone CHOOSE the discrimination that comes with being gay? I believe that ALL people should have the right to marry who they want. I also don't believe that any one group should get special privileges, meaning that if gay people just living together and not married get the same benefits as married people (insurance, etc.) then EVERY committed couple just living together and not married should get it also. The main group completely against gay marriage are usually the "bible-thumpers". I really, really don't intend to offend anyone with that term and I apologize if I do, BUT this group is always quick to quote the Bible as the determination that homosexuality is wrong. First of all, and this is my opinion only, the bible has been re-written by man (as a species) so many times, who is to say what, if any, of the original text remains? I don't believe that any "superior being" would allow a person to be born with a preference that would automatically condemn them. My outlook on life is to "live and let live". As long as what you do does not affect me or my loved ones in negative manner, I will accept you as a friend. *off my soapbox now*
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my Lodi girl,, very well said thank you..i'm sorry for what happened to you as a child. And i believe people who discriminate use the bible to hide behind..it doesn't say in the bible that we'll burn in hell, it says' we'll never rule in his kingdom,,,jeez the fags don't want to rule they just want to decorate. rotfl...
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Frick you did see that didn't you
By gay bashing you mean as in "we'll have a gay ole time?" |
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