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Old January 26th, 2009, 01:14 PM
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Do you have a neighbour who can help you out? Someone you can call to come to your house to wait for your wife to come home while you take your cat to the vet? Call a taxi to take you to the vet?

Honestly, I'd be exercising all my options for getting my cat to the vet ASAP!
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Old January 26th, 2009, 01:16 PM
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its okay, calm down, kitty needs you calm you didn't know and you made a mistake. now you know, so there wont be a next time. And now you can share your experience and help us help others to not make it too, so that no more kitties have their lives ended... A couple times a year I have kittens, or a mother and kittens here, because someone thinks it no big deal to have babies, then we have to find them families, families that could have given a home to another that needed it. seeing this process is absolutly heartbreaking, and makes you want to be angry at the people that do it. We are happy you know now, and that you are doing what you can for her, I am sure she'll be ok!
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Old January 26th, 2009, 01:23 PM
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i'm aware of the over load of animals again why i take them in but that's neither here nor there as far as getting to the vet this is going to sound like a cop out but i dont really have many friends i'm still new to the area and with 5 kids and one who has special needs i dont get out much and most of the people i do know well they work so i guess i'm stuck til my wife gets home and it sucks becuase i'm alone with my lil lily scared and she doesn't even act like anything is bothering her she's sleeping wow anyway aside from walking 10 miles in -2 weather with a pergnant cat i have no way there a cab would cost me 100 and i dont have that on hand in cash so again not much i can do
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Old January 26th, 2009, 01:24 PM
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How about contacting your wife to see if she can come home early?
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Old January 26th, 2009, 01:34 PM
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So it sounds like the cat is very dependant on you. You seem to have many obstacles and no solution other than hoping for the best.

I hope that she is ok and will get through this.

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Old January 26th, 2009, 01:42 PM
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she is and has been since we brought her home she follows me like a lil puppy... right now she is eating lol my wife can't come home right now she works with disabled people and is out on the road taking her client to work and what not
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Old January 26th, 2009, 02:03 PM
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i'm not trying to make it impossible i'm just trying to have some one to talk to to keep things smooth
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Old January 26th, 2009, 07:41 PM
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just to let those of you know that actually talked with me and not to me lily is fine and well she will be having her kittens tomorrow
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Old January 26th, 2009, 07:57 PM
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Typically cats do well with labor and with nursing. However when they have births so close together there can be more complications. I think you have gotten a lot of good advice here. The only think I can add is close monitoring and good communication with your veterinarian. Newborns and currently nuring kittens can be a difficulty. The mother can have more difficulty in some cases to produce milk and supplementation may be necessary. If there are any concerns whatsoever with the mother or any of the kittens, immediate veterinary evaluation is recommended. Best of luck.
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Old January 26th, 2009, 07:59 PM
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its great news! maybe she'll surprise you and have them before the c section? c section is good, the can spay at the same time. good luck again to you and hugs to Lily!
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Old January 27th, 2009, 12:08 PM
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I wonder if we will ever get an update.
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Old January 27th, 2009, 12:14 PM
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worried though that they did not pull that kitten, mother may not produce colostrum for newborns, can lead to troubles.... hope vet gives him some synthetic colostrum to suppliment...
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Old January 27th, 2009, 12:15 PM
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Let's just hope that everything is fine.
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Old January 27th, 2009, 12:26 PM
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yes here's hoping.. I am happy that they are trying to do the right thing though, and are willing to pay the vet bill. that says a lot, so many people that have kittens do not do that, that is how I ended up with these fosters. left at the vet cuz they did not want to pay for the sick mothers care and one kitten was born dead cuz of the mothers health.. So I am glad they are going to do the c section is she needs it... oh I can't wait for an update...
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Old January 27th, 2009, 08:15 PM
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well here's to good healthy kittens and mommy lily had her kittens last night at home crazy huh we took her in this morning and got our lil guy fixed too while we were there and he's doing great she had a boy and a girl the girl looks just like her mommy and the boy just like his daddy lol too funny right well now we have a house of 6 kitties wow but we have two very good homes ready for the kittens when they are ready lily is getting fixed in a few weeks since she didn't have to have a c section we got it ready for then the only one we have left to fix is our lil girl natasha (lily's first kitten) wow things have a crazy way of working out sorry it took me so long to get back on we were in and out of the vet today and trying to get her to focus on the babies instead of natasha but i think things are going well now as long as i'm with her she's does good lol if i could figure out how to put pics up i would should you guys what they all look like
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Old January 28th, 2009, 09:22 AM
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I am glad to hear all is well with your kitty.

Just make sure she has weaned her kittens and her milk has dried up before you take her in to be spayed.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 09:31 AM
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I am so relieved your kittens were born safely. From what you described in this thread it sure didn't sound like it would end that way. I apologize for any misconceptions that may have happened during the drama the other day. I tend to get a little "antsy" when things like that are happening.

Did you say that you were getting momma fixed in a few weeks? Have you made your appt yet? Are there any low cost s/n clinics in your area? Sorry for all the questions. Just trying to help save you some money. Now you and your six kids and hubby can get down to the enjoyment of having new kitties. Six cats in your house is a perfect number!
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Old January 28th, 2009, 10:45 AM
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she has an appt on the 26th of feb we are very happy things worked out and i'm not sure if there is a lost cost place but i like our vet and they work with a payment plan so it works for us and def worth it after all is said and done and lily gets fixed we are going to get natasha fixed and the new kittens will be in their new homes well i would like to keep one but the wifey wont let me 5 kids and 4 cats is enough for now lol i'm going to try to talk her into it though lol anyway does anyone know how to put pics on here...
it is normal for lily to have all her babies with her all the time??????? natasha isn't drinking from her anymore but she wants her around they even all sleep together is that weird???
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Old January 28th, 2009, 10:50 AM
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I don't want to discourage you, but it will take up to two weeks after the kittens are weaned before she can get spayed. That means she will only be able to nurse for a couple of weeks . Kittens should be nursing full time until they are about 4 weeks and best if able to keep nursing on a part time basis until 8-10 weeks of age. Kittens should be kept with their littermates and momma until about 12 weeks. This helps ensure that the kittens are well socialized and secure.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 10:57 AM
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we are just going off what the vet told us to do she said to schedule for then but i will call and ask again to make sure it will be safe for the kittens they are supposed to go with her is spaying the same as a hysterectomy?
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Old January 28th, 2009, 11:05 AM
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February 26th is too soon to get her spayed; she should be spayed near the end of March. The kittens should nurse until they are at least 6-7 weeks old and then weaned. By this time they should be eating food well and nursing less. When kittens are 8 wks old, get her spayed. And yes, it is normal that Natasha wants to be with her and the kittens...this is normal, not weird.

Yes, spaying is same as hysterectomy. Keep her kittens away from her when she gets home to give her time to recover, or they will try and nurse on her.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 11:07 AM
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we are just going off what the vet told us to do she said to schedule for then but i will call and ask again to make sure it will be safe for the kittens they are supposed to go with her is spaying the same as a hysterectomy?
Yes it is the same. The vet wants the kittens to accompany her? I do know when the kittens are very young, you never separate a kitten and their momma (had to lug my foster momma and all her 7 kittens every time there was a vet appt ).

Here is a link about spaying a nursing momma. If there is NO fear of her getting pregnant again then I would hold off. (at the end of the page)

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body...o_kittens.html

And another quick read.

http://www.peteducation.com/article....+2139&aid=1194

The shelter's vet that I volunteer for will not spay while the momma is nursing unless it is life and death.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 11:39 AM
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i'm not sure why they want the kittens with her maybe they were meaning to make it for the 26th of march??? i thought that was weird but she said that that's when they want her but i'll call again and reschedule it....
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she has an appt on the 26th of feb we are very happy things worked out and i'm not sure if there is a lost cost place but i like our vet and they work with a payment plan so it works for us and def worth it after all is said and done and lily gets fixed we are going to get natasha fixed and the new kittens will be in their new homes well i would like to keep one but the wifey wont let me 5 kids and 4 cats is enough for now lol i'm going to try to talk her into it though lol anyway does anyone know how to put pics on here...
it is normal for lily to have all her babies with her all the time??????? natasha isn't drinking from her anymore but she wants her around they even all sleep together is that weird???

L4H and everyone else is right. Feb 26 is way too soon for mom to get fixed. Ideally kittens should nurse for 8 weeks. Then mom needs to be separated from them so her milk can dry up for at least 2 weeks. I don't know what the vet is thinking about for Feb 26? Weird.
Sorry about the mixup with # of kids and gender. It's just that your public profile says differently.

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Awww they are precious.

Maybe your vet's office was trying to prevent future pregnancies? But if she doesn't have access to un-neutered males and is not allowed outside then she should be safe to spay when the kittens are weaned.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 11:56 AM
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lol ok i get it yes we do have 6 kids but our oldest lives in iowa sorry i forgot i put that on there i guess i'm used to people knowing so that is my fault and you have the gender right just uhm well not preference i guess as far as her early vet appt i'm not sure like i said i'll call them and reschedule they are not allowed outside def not now it's only 7 degrees out there and i would called to day but out vets office is closed today due to the snow storm
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When Misty has kittens the vet told me taht while the kittems were nursing Misty and all the kittens had to come together. The vet told me that if you seperate a nursing mom from the kittens, the mom will occasionally decide that it is a lot less work without the kittens, and refuse to nurse them when she returns. Also, really young kittens need other kittens and mom, or a proper substitute to keep them warm enough. No actual experience, this is just what my vet told me.
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When Misty has kittens the vet told me taht while the kittems were nursing Misty and all the kittens had to come together. The vet told me that if you seperate a nursing mom from the kittens, the mom will occasionally decide that it is a lot less work without the kittens, and refuse to nurse them when she returns. Also, really young kittens need other kittens and mom, or a proper substitute to keep them warm enough. No actual experience, this is just what my vet told me.
Absolutley, never separate momma and the kittens while the kittens are nursing. But the confusing issues the timing of the spaying . The kittens will be still nursing a lot and a nursing momma should not be spayed unless it is an emergency.
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When Misty has kittens the vet told me taht while the kittems were nursing Misty and all the kittens had to come together. The vet told me that if you seperate a nursing mom from the kittens, the mom will occasionally decide that it is a lot less work without the kittens, and refuse to nurse them when she returns. Also, really young kittens need other kittens and mom, or a proper substitute to keep them warm enough. No actual experience, this is just what my vet told me.
I can see the vet saying that when the kittens are very young and needing mom solely for food. However, what corilaurel is saying is the vet wants to see the kittens at the same time as mom. I would imagine the vet just wants to check on whether the kittens are doing ok and possible first shots.

Just as a warning... If mom was still letting Natasha suck she will be trying to get to her kittens to allow them to nurse and they will try to get to her to nurse once you separate them. It is imperitive she has time to dry up before her spay surgery. If she isn't there are added risks to her.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 12:29 PM
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natasha has done very well actually she isn't nursing at all or even really trying which suprises me because she would to fall asleep before the kittens came until i locked lily up in our room with me... natasha was helping lily by cleaning one of the kittens or i figure she was trying to help her anyway... now i do have a question about lily she's a great cat and a wonderful mom but, only if i'm in the room with her ie if the box is in our bedroom where she had them she will leave the room and not really go up there unless i sit with her. now if i bring the kittens box and all down stairs with me she will do the mommy thing and stay in there with them til i take the box back up to our room for bed time cause she wont stay down stairs with them if i'm in my room. do i just keep taking the box up and down or is she going to get better at this with natasha we had problems with her she wouldn't feed her for the first day unless i held her and natasha while she fed but after a few days she did good but was never like they saya bout mother cats always staying with their kittens only leaving to eat or use the litterbox
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