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no, they do not bake *any* of their products anymore... sorry :sad:
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Wellness
I've been reading on another dog food forum that some people are saying Wellness is now causing kidney problems. Someone has emailed Wellness with their concerns but have not received a reply yet. For any of you that want to read the comments the website is:
http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/Co...od_Comparison/ |
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Ok, maybe I'm just numb today, but why is extrusion so bad? The high temps? From what I've read, sometimes extrusion is just pressure and not high temps... How would they have made the kibble before baking without extruding? I can't imagine a factory of people rolling them into little balls.
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I always thought extrusion was like pumping out spaghetti pieces.. That it was shaping nothing more.......
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from http://www.drsfostersmith.com/pic/ar...id=169&aid=375
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What is bad about that?
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i dunno!
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lol I'd almost rather that than some 12 year old with blistered feet rolling my doggies' kibble into little balls.
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My puppy hated Wellness. She refused to eat it. After three days I changed to Solid Gold Hunden en Flocken, she loved it. But after almost a year of eating the same food and same flavour I have switched to Natural Blend, it is holistic, but cheaper. She likes this brand more than the prev. brands. I'm sticking to this.
Remember to post pics of your pup when she arrives!
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Rivers, if that one stops working, you can try the Just A Wee Bit... It's supposed to be more dense so you feed even less (made for little active doggies).
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Is Natural Blend the one made by Medi-cal (Techni-cal) ?
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"Sensible Choice® is a registered trademark of Royal Canin USA"
http://www.naturalblend.com/SCHPRD.HTM |
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k, call me a grain moron, but what is "flax"? I've seen flaxseed, flax oil, but what is just plain "flax"?
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I found it (Canadian):
http://www.royalcanin.ca/products/tc/nb/adult_en.php Ingredients:Chicken meal, whole brown rice, pearl barley, chicken fat (naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract and citric acid), brewers rice, chicken, whole oatmeal, natural flavours, beet pulp, salmon meal, dried eggs, tomato pomace, potassium chloride, whole flaxseed, salt, apple pomace, carrot pomace, brewers yeast, whole alfalfa, calcium carbonate, canola oil, chicory extract, whole spinach, choline chloride, salmon oil, Vitamins (vitamin A, vitamin D3, vitamin E, niacin, vitamin C, inositol, d-calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, beta-carotene, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, vitamin K, biotin, vitamin B12), Minerals (zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, iron proteinate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), whole broccoli, whole sweet potatoes, whole apples, whole blueberries, whole pears, whole bananas, dried kelp, yucca shidigera extract, cinnamon, turmeric, capsicum, paprika, garlic, chamomile, dandelion, probiotics (dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus plantarum fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus lactis fermentation product, dried Bifidobacterium bifidum fermentation product, dried Enterococcus diacetylactis fermentation product). The Vitamin K listed is menadione sodium bisulfite complex. This is one of the companies I emailed awhile ago and they insisted it wasn't a bad ingredient. If I ever get time they're on my list of Canadian companies to email again. It also has citric acid as one of the preservatives in case you have a concern with bloat. |
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Yeah, but do they really throw the whole plant in there?
My dog, how little salmon oil must they put in there so that it ends up right before the vitamins? Wow. And most of the ingredients are after the fat (meaning they don't even matter). (oh, and there's more menadione than broccoli, blueberries and bananas.. Interesting choice, Royal canin... ) |
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Yeah, I always thought the vitamins and minerals were supposed to be the last ingredients on the list. And the tomato pomace, apple pomace and carrot pomace come before some of the whole veggies and fruit.
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clever marketing bastids, ain't they?
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Right on. And there's lots more like them. :sad:
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Ok, tomato pomace is the skin, right?
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This would be why I've never looked at a bag of royal canin seriously.. I don't see it as all that much different than iams, eukanuba or whatever.. They just have better marketing and have suckered people in with the food line of foods for specific breeds..
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Yeah, but don't they take the skins out?
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Yep, it's just the pulp and seeds as far as I know. So if tomato pomace is:
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Yeah, I never thought it was bad. It's way better than beet pulp, if you need a stool hardener. I just used that definition to ask what they hey carrot pomace is... It's got no skin, no pulp and no seeds.
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So if Natural Blend took out the menadione, beet pulp, brewers rice, brewers yeast, apple pomace and carrot pomace, and put all the fruits and veggies ahead of the vitamins and minerals (which means they'd have to increase the amounts), they have not a bad food.
Oh, and also explain what the natural flavours are. Last edited by rainbow; August 18th, 2006 at 11:23 PM. |
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Makes me think the definition is leaving something out.. Since grape pomace is what is left after grape juice is made.. So not much.. And apple pomace is just as tasty (and in this food)..
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