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Can't find Iams Cat food
I'm new to this forum so hoping someone can help. I've noticed a couple of my local stores have run out of a lot of Iams cat food bags this week. Store people didn't know why. Is anyone else seeing this?
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as L4H said , first of all , dry food is not the best for cats. And I wouldn't buy any Iams products ... they were accused of animal cruelty when doing research. They also used to put dead animals in their food (was listed as ashes) |
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It's probably because Proctor & Gamble has had another recall of the Iams brand .....
http://vetnutrition.blogspot.com/201...-slightly.html Check out the Food Forum here for much better brands to choose from. |
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A blessing in disguise. If you need help picking a better food there are lots of really food smart cat people here and I am sure they could help you find a much better substitute. Just ask you will get great suggestions I personally cannot help I am a dog person. But my rule of thumb is if your vet or a grocery store sells it forget about it, it will not be high quality and what you pay for Iams you can get something better for the same money. BTW welcome to pets.ca
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I've noticed a lot of supply issues with Iams as well, and once they were completely out of what I needed, but I had enough at home so I never really asked about it.
According to their webpage, the recall includes Iams Veterinary dry food and the Eukanuba dry foods. Did you ask at the customer service counter? It sounds like a distribution issue more than a problem with the food itself. |
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I think if you are going to tell people on here that they are feeding their pets from food that involves cruelty, provide proof. Recent proof. |
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The dry is full of corn in various forms and some lovely chicken by products (you know, the parts of the chicken that they can't use for anything else so they dump it in petfoods.). The canned is worse! Meat by products (which can include euthanized animals and/or roadkill) and chicken by products are both listed in the top 4 ingredients.
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"Can include"??? Give me a break. Proof please that IAMS food contains "roadkill" or currently uses inhumane methods in testing and preparation. There is a lot of judgment in this site about "what I would feed my animal", etc and people have a right to their opinions on that. The reality is that many pet owners use these products and if you are going to level accusations of cruelty and improper food practices, you should provide proof. \ What you like or don't like and what is nutritionally optimal, etc - does not equal cruelty or using "roadkill" in food. |
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Driver8....of course the WHS use Iams, Iams sponsers them as they do the OSPCA. They are Humane Socities and have limited funds. It doesn't mean that it is good food though.
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Good food is one thing. Not everyone can afford the brands pushed by the members of this site, and most pet owners just buy their pet food at the same place they buy their people food. It's not something to be snobby about, but it is just reality. Many people do use this food. Like it or not. If people are going to say things like "animal cruelty" and suggest that roadkill is used in the food, that is not about "good food versus crap food". I eat KD sometimes, which is crap food for people. No one suggests that I am contributing to cruelty by buying it. |
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Wasn't there a link to a video made showing dead dogs, etc going into a rendering plant for pet food? I can't remember what thread that was posted on.
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My BIL owned and operated a dead stock removal business for many many years. Quite obviously from the name of the business alone he picked up dead animals. Normally dead stock from farms or whatever else the farmer decided to throw into the pile. He stripped the hides off the animals for use in the garment industry (shoes, jackets, etc), the bones would go into bone barrels, blood into other barrels, the rest in even more barrels. Every second day or so all of this would be picked up for delivery to its' specified location. Most went to rendering plants to be used for pet food. Sound appetizing yet?
Just a few of the sites readily available for perusing..... http://www.rense.com/general70/dead.htm http://www.jivdaya.org/rendering_plants.htm http://www.outoftheearth.com/petfood.htm http://www.albionmonitor.com/9712a/petfood.html And my favourite line....... When was the last time you saw a cat in the middle of a corn field munching on a cob of corn?
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As for the food "quality" , I've just looked it up , a few of their cat dry foods , you know , just in case they got better without my knowing and the main first 2 ingredients are "chicken by-products and corn". it sucked years ago , and guess what ? it still sucks ! |
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I don't have a chip on my shoulder. I do think this site puts off a lot of people with some of the food rhetoric, but that may be for a different thread.
I just think that in amongst the "you should use this food, it's better" posts, there should also be acknowledgment of what really goes on out there for many pet owners. Many, many people use these foods. I'm not saying they are the best foods. The allegations made here are that millions of unsuspecting pet owners are contributing to a pet food manufacturer's cruelty, and I think if you are going to allege that, you need to provide current, up to date proof. Not "we know" from 20 years ago. I have asked for current proof that IAMS uses cruel methods in its facilities. Out of the links someone posted above, only one contained info as recent as 2006, and it was mainly allegations with no proof. Its "proof" is a description of writing by a reporter who wrote on the subject in 1997. Again, saying that ____ food is lesser quality ingredients is different from proving there is cruelty and roadkill used in it. Last edited by driver8; September 13th, 2010 at 01:03 PM. |
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I have, I couldn't find anything within the last 5 years. Can you post or email me the links you have?
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Oh I'm sorry driver8. I was just showing some sites showing the type of meats used in dog/cat food. I think that is irrefutable?
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It is cruel to knowingly manufacture a pet food that is NOT healthy or appropriate for the animals it is intended for.
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That doesn't make them good foods, it just means that those "many many" people probably don't have a clue about what really goes into a bag-o-Iams. From my experience, once people do learn the truth, most eagerly switch to something better.
Why does it matter so much WHEN this was done, the issue is that it even occurred at ALL. Just because they got caught and may (or may not) have stopped, you would still support a company that at one time thought torturing animals was an acceptable policy?
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and you keep saying road kill ... I never mentioned anything about road kills. dead animals are not all road kills. |
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Even some types of Fancy Feast are better than Iams. And you can't say that FF is expensive.
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Honestly, I can't even find real proof in the PETA page, just opinion and allegation. I don't mis-trust the info because it's PETA, I mistrust it because no one ELSE says it to back it up. These are the people who throw blood or red paint on people in public and stuff, yes, they lose credibility in my eyes. I don't say anything about the quality of IAMS food. I simply object to non-proven accusations of animal cruelty when so many people use the product. AGAIN. Saying it's not the best quality food is not the same as proving cruelty. I think people should be careful what allegations they make against specific foods. If IAMS used cruelty in the past, sure some people would choose to not use the product. But if they aren't using any cruelty now, I think it's a personal judgment call if people are comfortable using their products now. I don't see anything wrong with people who use IAMS now if there is no cruelty now. If a difference was made in past practices, it's a good thing. |
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driver8 , I really think you should start researching about pet food.
"Pet owners often rely on veterinarians to recommend brands and types of pet food. But the food we give to our pets, including the stuff made by companies commonly recommended by veterinarians, is a slow-acting poison, contaminated with toxins and chemicals, and hardly adequate nutritionally. It's made from the garbage of our own food-production processes, including dead, dying, decaying and decomposing animals. In some places, notably in Quebec but also in many states of the Union, even dead dogs and cats are picked up by rendering companies and mixed in with the rest of the unappetizing mess - along with their flea collars, identification tags and even the plastic bags used to carry their carcasses. " this is from here and no , it's not Peta http://www.katinkahesselink.net/other/danten1.html and for more reading from Charles Danten , don't know if they have it in english but I guess you'll have to do your own research : "Un vétérinaire en colère: Essai sur la condition animale" |
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I can't find where he talks about Iams, and all the books he lists are pretty old too, even if you wanted to go find them and verify where they got their info. I volunteer at a shelter that feeds and supports iams, that has done an investigation to LOOK for cruelty there and found none. I'd like to know if there is something current I need to let the shelter admin know about in regards to this issue. |
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http://www.iamscruelty.com/videos.asp
http://www.uncaged.co.uk/iams.htm and in this one they say it is not the first time they have been caught http://thoughtsfurpaws.com/dogs/iams...inally-proved/ 2008 These are just a few of the videos and articles there are worse but the last one is 2008 and if the ones you found are over 5 year old sort of says this is not stopping. Yes Iams donates tons of food does not mean they are a good company it is a huge write off and the reason vets sell it is because of a little word called kickback and they also give vets to be scholarships.
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However, they contain only the old rehashed info about the exposures from 2002. I agree that what went on was appalling. But I'm convinced that there is not the same things going on now. If there was evidence of right now, I'd be on the phone now to the shelter in a heartbeat. I don't think it's fair to tell people they are feeding their beloved pets something that contributes to cruelty unless you know for sure. |
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