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Wellness and NV using Menufoods?
Anyone's thoughts on this? Old Mother Hubbard's site says their food isn't effected by the recall, but they don't say they don't use menu.. This news article claims both NV and wellness use menufoods.. Sketches me out a touch. That along with TO refusing to disclose who makes their food...
http://www.insidebayarea.com/sanmate...ews/ci_5477581
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might be time to strat home-cooking for awhile....
Even though SG isn't in the recall...all this stuff is making me nervous.... You're carefull to feed your dog in two meals to avoid bloat, you take him in for his shots so he doesn't catch some horrible disease, you treat him like he's one of your kids, and he dies from the food you put in his bowl. You think you're doing the best for them, you know? It's all so sad :sad:
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Wellness is made at the same place by the same company as those <insert your own description here> lesser quality foods ???
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Very interesting....thanks for posting MP. I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. And, also interesting to read that Menu Foods will not return any of the calls.
I just emailed Wellness (Old Mother Hubbard) and Nature's Variety asking them whether they do use product from Menu Foods even though none of their foods have been recalled. Will post my replies....if I get them. |
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Thaaaaaat's why!!!
Solid Gold's statement was one of the ONLY ones I found that said "Menu foods does not produce any of our foods". Most of the other ones said, "None of our foods are affected by the recall". Biggggg difference. Of course Wellness and NV won't be recalled- they don't have wheat. |
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That's right....it is a BIG difference. If the statement in the article MP posted is true, I wonder how many other "premium/holistic" companies are using product from Menu Foods. And, I wonder what exactly they are purchasing from them. Obviously, not any wheat product but I wonder WHAT???
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Who knows!? It's so aggravating. When Solid Gold comes out looking like the most honest and upfront, we know we have a serious problem. :sad:
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Well, hopefully I get an answer from Wellness and Nature's Variety.
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Timberwolf has the same "our foods are not affected by the Menu Foods recall". I've emailed them asking if they are manufactured by Menu or in the same plant ~ I should have asked if they sourced any of their ingredients from Menu.
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I think I may cry.. I thought all those menu foods statements were written in an icky funny way..
And then when I was shown this article I was like please don't be true.. And even with these foods not being recalled, I have a huge ick factor going on..
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I hear ya MP ~ I simply do not know what I will do if I can't use Timberwolf .:sad:
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I'm fairly certain Natura foods also gets Menu foods to make some of their canned foods (the Nebraska plant apparently). Natura makes Innova and California naturals. I'm still not sure how I feel about this. I disagree with Menu Foods experimenting on animals with foods they knew likely were harmful, but I also understand the need for pet food companies to out source some of their production, especially for canned stuff (which requires more rigorous processing and such). And just because every pet food from low to high quality is produced in the same plant does not mean it uses the same ingredients- I would hope that companies like Wellness and Innova have separate suppliers for their ingredients, especially because they are advertised as being natural and human grade. That said, I'm hoping to start using a grain free kibble produced locally once Helix is old enough and it becomes available (or possibly Orijen,as that's also a "local" food). It makes you think though!
On another note, Canidae said that their foods are not processed in the "same production facility" but they do not specify by the same company (Menu Foods) indicating they could be produced in another Menu Foods plant not in Canada. Last edited by Cram; March 21st, 2007 at 03:50 PM. |
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This is all so distressing, it boggles the mind.
The fallout is absolutely overwhelming in scope....:sad: Talk about shattered trust.. I feed Innova tinned to my cats. Their website states this. SPECIAL NOTIFICATION: Natura pet foods are NOT affected by the recent Menu Foods recall. But... is that good enough? Do they use any product? I have pet food paranoia.. cant help it.:sad: I think I'm going to feed them my own cooked food for a while. Like all of us, I opened the tins, filled the dishes and offered their meals with loving confidence I was doing right by them. Now.. I look at it with fear..
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I just sent emails to both Natura and Canidae. Will post if I get replies. |
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It also is sad that Wellness & NV are produced at the same plant with those other 'lower quality' foods....it doesn't make sense to me. I am now beginning to wonder if that's where TO produces their foods. In their response, they stated that their food is produced at a plant where many other high quality foods are produced. I wonder if they consider all these commercial brands to be equal to their own. |
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That's what makes this recall so bad compared to others, IMO. It really could have been any of the foods and any of our animals.
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Here's the announcement from Canidae's website:
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I read on another forum that someone got a reply from Canidae stating that they have no affiliation with Menu Foods and that their canned food is made at Evanger's plant.
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I'm contacting PETA because NV is on their list of companies that don't test of animals. If their canned foods are produced at Menu Foods (who obviously DO test on animals) then I think they should be removed from the list. They should be responsible for the actions of those who make their food!
I hope that doesn't make me too obsessed.
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Whew! I certainly hope so! Thanks.
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My reply from Natura Pet Foods (Innova, California Natural):
Natura Pet Products owns and operates two manufacturing facilities, including a new, state-of-the-art manufacturing plant in Fremont, Nebraska. Our plants are AIB Certified “Superior”, Organic Certified, USDA APHIS Registered and ISO 9001:2001 compliant. Natura does utilize Menu Foods to manufacture canned products; however, Natura maintains final review and strict approval of all formulation designs, including the types and quality of ingredients included. Menu Foods is responsible for quality control in its facilities, based upon their Good Manufacturing Practice process; a copy of which is on file in our offices. Natura has a complete and documented Product Quality reference on hand detailing the quality standards for each formula and can size produced under Natura’s labels. Each of our canned products are routinely reviewed and compared to the standards set out in this reference material. It is important to emphasize that: 1) the Menu Foods recall is specific to “cuts and gravy” products WHICH NATURA DOES NOT SELL, and; 2) Natura’s canned products are made at a facility which has NOT BEEN IMPLICATED IN THE RECALL. Since being notified of the recall, Natura has been in direct contact with Menu Foods management and have a 100% confidence level that our canned products in the market are healthful and safe. |
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Natura has their own dry food plant and I believe Menu only produces canned food. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
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I can't take it anymore
I find all of this distressing. And I work in a pet food store. I can't even in good conscience recommend ANY foods!! I supplement P's Innova Evo kibble with Wellness cans. Not only that, but he was having itchy problems on the Evo so I just started switching him to TO. I going back to raw. Thank you for letting me vent!
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But I am scared of raw too - I see too much of it as a physician I guess, too much bacteria, salmonella - with raw, one does not need to be concerned about recalls because there is always the possibility of problems. Tho I did for a while give my cats chicken hearts and then thought OMG, what am I doing? At least tho you know what kind of illness you might get tho - that is something.
This whole thing is scary and frustrating!!! I am serious - I am going to get recipes,. Remember that show Providence where one of the characters had a Barkery- she baked stuff for dogs (don't think she served cats) and the father was a vet? Not that I thinkj it's real and I am going to write for recipes, lol but there must be recipes for cats on line somewhere!!!!
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Nature's variety
Are you talking about this nature's variety: http://www.naturesvariety.com/ or is there a different one? The canned?? I was thinking about trying their frozen raw. Thanks
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That's the one.:sad:
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That's what I think too. Hopefully, they will answer my email.
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HEY-Where is DVP Natural Balance produced??????? From what I've read, no one has mentioned that company yet.
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Food Recall!!!
But isn't Timberwolf Organics kibbles manufactured at Chenango Valley Pet Foods in Sherburne, NY???
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