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Originally Posted by Kasianni
Wow, I don't know what to say to you for this info. The vet tech did put it in a plastic syringe. I called her, and she said one second, she went to talk to the vet, and you are so very right. Imagine if you had not told me and I had to use it on Theo, it would have been no good!!! I want to thank you so so much for telling me. I am going back this afternoon and she is going to give me another one, this time in the bottle. I had asked her to pre-fill the syringe because I don't know how to fill the syringe myself. She did wrap it so the light would not effect it but still in plastic..would have been useless. I now see that the bottle is scored, that is how it was when she showed me, so I know that I snap it off but not sure about the rest. You are so much of a help right now, thank you SO MUCH!!
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Just glad you posted that, and were able to get what you needed! The tech should have known that, but I guess maybe she just hasn't taken much training for medications
And again, no need for thanks, just glad I have the info to share with you
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Originally Posted by Kasianni
One more thing, I am probably going to sound stupid but you said Nookies eyes are wide open, so are Theo's when he is in a seizure. How do I know then if he is conscious or not? The last one, I got up to get ice right away and he was in a seizure and tried to follow me the poor thing. That was a mistake because he fell of the mattress. Let me first say, I took my bed off the frame so my mattress is directly on the floor. (I did this because they are both Dachshunds and are prone to back problems and since they sleep with me, I didn't want them jumping off the bed) So I scooped the poor thing up and brought to the bed and he was on my lap. He seems aware of everything, he looks at me but also looks like he is freaked out, its hard to explain. I just watched your video, first, Nookie is gorgeous and second it breaks my heart to see them like this. When he was on the floor, was he conscious?? He looks like he was because he was lifting his head and such?? Theo does not foam at the mouth. The only thing he does is pee a bit at first but nothing else. He has the seizure, comes out of it and then tries to run around as if nothing happened. Last two times he was panting, does Nookie pant during seizures??
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You don't sound stupid at all... how will you know if you've never experienced it?
The video of Nookie, he was concious, but confused. He was just coming out of it. I don't know if you watched the other 2 videos (youtube), but that's how his seizures look at the beginning. He screams and throws himself, sometimes several feet (like the Boston terrier), then, his seizures look very much like the GSD, with his eyes and mouth wide open, looks like his jaw is going to break. He gets very rigid, the screaming stops, then he starts paddling and will sometimes scream when he's paddling. It's quite horrifying to watch. He always foams at the mouth and drools heavily. He either urinates or deficates, sometimes both. When his eyes are open, they look "blank". He's completely non-responsive. If we talk to him, he doesn't look at us. If we put our hands in front of his face, it doesn't phase him. He's just mentally not there, even though his eyes are open. I would say if Theo got up to follow you, he was conscious. Or if he responds when you talk to him (perks his ears, looks at you etc), then he's conscious. The wide eyed look could just be fear and/or confusion for the poor little guy.
As for the panting, Nookie does pant, and sometimes will drool a lot after a seizure. It also takes him awhile to recover. He's only had 1 or 2 where he just got up and acted like nothing happened. Most of the time he will pace, and pant, and whine... sometimes for hours. The seizures take a lot out of them physically, and it can affect all the muscles, like a major workout, so I wouldn't worry too much about the panting, especially if he's had some longer/more severe seizures. It could be exhaustion, or anxiety from the seizure, or even both. One thing I would watch for though, is drooling and laboured breathing. If that ever happens, check his gums. Press your finger on them lightly and see how long it takes for the color to return. If it comes right back, you're fine. If it takes more than a couple of seconds, then he could be lacking oxygen. I think I mentioned this before, but Nookie aspirated with one of his seizures and had pulmonary edema (lungs filled with fluid), then ended up with aspiration pneumonia. A lot of Vets will say that seizures aren't "harmful", but they can be and I think it's irresponsible not to warn people about things that "can" happen, regardless of how unlikely it is. It's better to know and be prepared than to have something happen and your baby could possibly die because you had no idea and were told they're harmless. When it happened to Nookie, I googled for excessive coughing and drooling after a seizure and all kindsa sights popped up warning about pulmonary edema, so we rushed him to the emergency hostpital, and sure enough, that's what it was. He could have died. And I hope I'm not scaring you, that's not my intention. I just think it's good to know the possibilities and be prepared in the event that something unlikely does happen.
Robyn